Re: [Python-Dev] Use our strict mbcs codec instead of the Windows ANSI API

2011-10-25 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I propose to raise Unicode errors if a filename cannot be decoded on Windows, > instead of creating a bogus filenames with questions marks. Can you please elaborate what APIs you are talking about exactly? If it's the byte APIs (i.e. using bytes as file names), then I'm -1 on this proposal. Pe

Re: [Python-Dev] Use our strict mbcs codec instead of the Windows ANSI API

2011-10-25 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:57:42 +0200 Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > I propose to raise Unicode errors if a filename cannot be decoded on Windows, > instead of creating a bogus filenames with questions marks. Because this > change > is incompatible with Python 3.2, even if such filenames are unu

Re: [Python-Dev] Use our strict mbcs codec instead of the Windows ANSI API

2011-10-25 Thread Victor Stinner
Le Mardi 25 Octobre 2011 13:20:12 vous avez écrit : > Victor Stinner writes: > > I propose to raise Unicode errors if a filename cannot be decoded > > on Windows, instead of creating a bogus filenames with questions > > marks. > > By "bogus" you mean "sometimes (?) invalid and the OS will refus

Re: [Python-Dev] Use our strict mbcs codec instead of the Windows ANSI API

2011-10-25 Thread Victor Stinner
Le Mardi 25 Octobre 2011 09:09:56 vous avez écrit : > > I propose to raise Unicode errors if a filename cannot be decoded on > > Windows, instead of creating a bogus filenames with questions marks. > > Can you please elaborate what APIs you are talking about exactly? Basically, all functions proc

Re: [Python-Dev] memcmp performance

2011-10-25 Thread Stefan Behnel
Richard Saunders, 25.10.2011 01:17: -On [20111024 09:22], Stefan Behnel wrote: >>I agree. Given that the analysis shows that the libc memcmp() is >>particularly fast on many Linux systems, it should be up to the Python >>package maintainers for these systems to set that option externally th

Re: [Python-Dev] Use our strict mbcs codec instead of the Windows ANSI API

2011-10-25 Thread Victor Stinner
Le Mardi 25 Octobre 2011 09:09:56 vous avez écrit : > If it's the byte APIs (i.e. using bytes as file names), then I'm -1 on > this proposal. People that explicitly use bytes for file names deserve > to get whatever exact platform semantics the platform has to offer. This > is true on Unix, and it

Re: [Python-Dev] memcmp performance

2011-10-25 Thread Victor Stinner
Le Mardi 25 Octobre 2011 10:44:16 Stefan Behnel a écrit : > Richard Saunders, 25.10.2011 01:17: > > -On [20111024 09:22], Stefan Behnel wrote: > > >>I agree. Given that the analysis shows that the libc memcmp() is > > >>particularly fast on many Linux systems, it should be up to the > > >>Pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: #13251: update string description in datamodel.rst.

2011-10-25 Thread Petri Lehtinen
Hi, ezio.melotti wrote: > http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/11d18ebb2dd1 > changeset: 73116:11d18ebb2dd1 > user:Ezio Melotti > date:Tue Oct 25 09:23:42 2011 +0300 > summary: > #13251: update string description in datamodel.rst. > > files: > Doc/reference/datamodel.rst | 20

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #13226: Add RTLD_xxx constants to the os module. These constants can by

2011-10-25 Thread Petri Lehtinen
Hi, victor.stinner wrote: > http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/c75427c0da06 > changeset: 73127:c75427c0da06 > user:Victor Stinner > date:Tue Oct 25 13:34:04 2011 +0200 > summary: > Issue #13226: Add RTLD_xxx constants to the os module. These constants can > by > used with sys.s

Re: [Python-Dev] Use our strict mbcs codec instead of the Windows ANSI API

2011-10-25 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> My proposition is a fix to user reported by a user: > http://bugs.python.org/issue13247 So your proposal is that abspath(b".") shall raise a UnicodeError in this case? Are you serious??? > In practice, characters not encodable to the ANSI code page are very rare. > For > example: it's diffic

Re: [Python-Dev] Modules of plat-* directories

2011-10-25 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 24.10.2011 14:06, schrieb Victor Stinner: > There are open issues related to plat-XXX. > > Le Lundi 24 Octobre 2011 00:03:42 Martin v. Löwis a écrit : >> no, we make no changes to them unless a user actually requests a change > > Matthias Klose asked for socket SIO* constants in september 2006

Re: [Python-Dev] Use our strict mbcs codec instead of the Windows ANSI API

2011-10-25 Thread Victor Stinner
Le mardi 25 octobre 2011 00:57:42, Victor Stinner a écrit : > I propose to raise Unicode errors if a filename cannot be decoded on > Windows, instead of creating a bogus filenames with questions marks. > Because this change is incompatible with Python 3.2, even if such > filenames are unusable and

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #13226: Add RTLD_xxx constants to the os module. These constants can by

2011-10-25 Thread Victor Stinner
Le mardi 25 octobre 2011 14:50:44, Petri Lehtinen a écrit : > Hi, > > victor.stinner wrote: > > http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/c75427c0da06 > > changeset: 73127:c75427c0da06 > > user:Victor Stinner > > date:Tue Oct 25 13:34:04 2011 +0200 > > > > summary: > > Issue #13226: A

Re: [Python-Dev] Use our strict mbcs codec instead of the Windows ANSI API

2011-10-25 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/25/2011 4:31 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: Le Mardi 25 Octobre 2011 09:09:56 vous avez écrit : I propose to raise Unicode errors if a filename cannot be decoded on Windows, instead of creating a bogus filenames with questions marks. Can you please elaborate what APIs you are talking about ex

Re: [Python-Dev] Use our strict mbcs codec instead of the Windows ANSI API

2011-10-25 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
In general I agree with what you write, Terry. One clarification and one comment, though. Terry Reedy writes: > The doc says "All functions accepting path or file names accept both > bytes and string objects, and result in an object of the same type, if a > path or file name is returned." I