2011/11/21 Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu:
I strongly recommend that where it makes a difference, the pypy python3
project target 3.3. In particular, don't reproduce the buggy narrow-build
behavior of 3.2 and before (perhaps pypy avoids this already). Do include
the new unicode capi in cpyext. I
Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com wrote:
Should we document and test it, leave it unchanged and
deprecate it, or simply remove it?
If we change PyUnicode_EncodeDecimal() to reject error handlers different
than
strict, we can keep this function for some release and deprecate
Le mardi 22 novembre 2011 02:02:05, Victor Stinner a écrit :
This function is broken by design if an error handler is specified: the
caller cannot know the size of the output buffer, whereas the caller has
to allocate this buffer.
I propose to raise an error if an error handler (different
Giampaolo Rodolà, 22.11.2011 10:21:
2011/11/21 Terry Reedy:
I strongly recommend that where it makes a difference, the pypy python3
project target 3.3. In particular, don't reproduce the buggy narrow-build
behavior of 3.2 and before (perhaps pypy avoids this already). Do include
the new unicode
2011/11/22 Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com
Hi,
In Python 3.2, PyUnicode_Resize() expects a number of Py_UNICODE units,
whereas Python 3.3 expects a number of characters.
It is tricky to convert a number of Py_UNICODE units to a number of
characters, so it is diffcult to provide
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Giampaolo Rodolà, 22.11.2011 10:21:
2011/11/21 Terry Reedy:
I strongly recommend that where it makes a difference, the pypy python3
project target 3.3. In particular, don't reproduce the buggy narrow-build
behavior of
On Nov 22, 2011, at 02:15 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Well, Py3 still has a lot to catch up in terms of wide spread distribution
compared to Py2.x, and new users will usually start using the most up to date
release, which will soon be 3.3.
Besides, 3.3 has received various optimisations that make
Maciej Fijalkowski, 22.11.2011 15:46:
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Giampaolo Rodolà, 22.11.2011 10:21:
2011/11/21 Terry Reedy:
I strongly recommend that where it makes a difference, the pypy python3
project target 3.3. In particular, don't reproduce the buggy
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:38:03 +0100
giampaolo.rodola python-check...@python.org wrote:
diff --git a/Misc/ACKS b/Misc/ACKS
--- a/Misc/ACKS
+++ b/Misc/ACKS
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
PS: In the standard Python distribution, this file is encoded in UTF-8
and the list is in rough alphabetical order by
Barry Warsaw writes:
Hopefully, we're going to be making a dent in that in the next version of
Ubuntu.
This is still a big mess in Gentoo and MacPorts, though. MacPorts
hasn't done anything about ceating a transition infrastructure AFAICT.
Gentoo has its eselect python set VERSION stuff,
On 2011-11-22, at 17:41 , Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Barry Warsaw writes:
Hopefully, we're going to be making a dent in that in the next version of
Ubuntu.
This is still a big mess in Gentoo and MacPorts, though. MacPorts
hasn't done anything about ceating a transition infrastructure
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 01:41:46AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Barry Warsaw writes:
Hopefully, we're going to be making a dent in that in the next version of
Ubuntu.
This is still a big mess in Gentoo and MacPorts, though. MacPorts
hasn't done anything about ceating a
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 09:13 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 01:41:46AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Barry Warsaw writes:
Hopefully, we're going to be making a dent in that in the next version of
Ubuntu.
This is still a big mess in Gentoo and MacPorts,
Sorry, thanks (fixed).
--- Giampaolo
http://code.google.com/p/pyftpdlib/
http://code.google.com/p/psutil/
2011/11/22 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:38:03 +0100
giampaolo.rodola python-check...@python.org wrote:
diff --git a/Misc/ACKS b/Misc/ACKS
--- a/Misc/ACKS
Did you mean to also modify sched.py in this changeset?
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On Nov 22, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Maciej Fijalkowski, 22.11.2011 15:46:
PyPy's py3k branch targets Python 3.2 until 3.3 is released and very
likely 3.3 afterwards. Optimizations are irrelevant really in the case
of PyPy.
I admit that I wasn't very clear in my wording. As
Hi,
2011/11/22 Giampaolo Rodolà g.rod...@gmail.com
Sorry, thanks (fixed).
You also modified Lib/sched.py in the same commit.
Was it intended? If not, please revert it.
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2011/11/22 Philip Jenvey pjen...@underboss.org
One reason to target 3.2 for now is it's not a moving target. There's
overhead involved in managing modifications to the pure python standard lib
needed for PyPy, tracking 3.3 changes as they happen as well exacerbates
this.
The plans to split
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:29:43 +0100
benjamin.peterson python-check...@python.org wrote:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/77ab830930ae
changeset: 73697:77ab830930ae
user:Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org
date:Tue Nov 22 15:29:32 2011 -0500
summary:
fix compiler warning
2011/11/22 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:29:43 +0100
benjamin.peterson python-check...@python.org wrote:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/77ab830930ae
changeset: 73697:77ab830930ae
user: Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org
date: Tue Nov 22
On Nov 22, 2011, at 09:13 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
For Fedora (and currently, Red Hat is based on Fedora -- a little more about
that later, though), we have parallel python2 and python3 stacks.
Debian (and thus Ubuntu) also has separate Python 2 and 3 stacks. In general,
if you have a Python
On Nov 22, 2011, at 06:10 PM, Xavier Morel wrote:
It's definitely not going to replace the Apple-provided Python out of the
box, so setting `python` to a python3 is not going to happen.
Nor should it! PEP 394 attempts to codify the Python project's
recommendations for what version 'python'
On 11/22/2011 10:35 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Maciej Fijalkowski, 22.11.2011 15:46:
2011/11/21 Terry Reedy:
I strongly recommend that where it makes a difference, the pypy
python3
project target 3.3. In particular, don't reproduce the buggy
narrow-build
behavior of 3.2 and before (perhaps
On 11/22/2011 3:28 PM, Philip Jenvey wrote:
One reason to target 3.2 for now is it's not a moving target.
Neither is the basic design and behavior of the new unicode
implementation. On 3.2 narrow builds, including Windows
len('\U00010101')
2
With 3.3, the answer will be, properly, 1. I
Nope, the commit involving sched was the previous one.
This one was just an unrelated fix.
--- Giampaolo
http://code.google.com/p/pyftpdlib/
http://code.google.com/p/psutil/
2011/11/22 Nadeem Vawda nadeem.va...@gmail.com:
Did you mean to also modify sched.py in this changeset?
You're right. I committed sched.py by accident.
I'm going to revert it.
--- Giampaolo
http://code.google.com/p/pyftpdlib/
http://code.google.com/p/psutil/
2011/11/22 Giampaolo Rodolà g.rod...@gmail.com:
Nope, the commit involving sched was the previous one.
This one was just an unrelated fix.
2011/11/22 Amaury Forgeot d'Arc amaur...@gmail.com:
Hi,
2011/11/22 Giampaolo Rodolà g.rod...@gmail.com
Sorry, thanks (fixed).
You also modified Lib/sched.py in the same commit.
Was it intended? If not, please revert it.
--
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
You're right. I committed sched.py by
2011/11/22 Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu
On 11/22/2011 3:28 PM, Philip Jenvey wrote:
One reason to target 3.2 for now is it's not a moving target.
Neither is the basic design and behavior of the new unicode
implementation. On 3.2 narrow builds, including Windows
len('\U00010101')
2
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:42:35 -0500
Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2011/11/22 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:29:43 +0100
benjamin.peterson python-check...@python.org wrote:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/77ab830930ae
changeset:
2011/11/22 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:42:35 -0500
Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2011/11/22 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:29:43 +0100
benjamin.peterson python-check...@python.org wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:42:24 -0500
Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2011/11/22 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:42:35 -0500
Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2011/11/22 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:29:43 +0100
I've volunteered to be the Release Manager for Python 3.4. The FLUFL
has already given it his Sloppy Wet Kiss Of Approval, and we talked to
Georg and he was for it too. There's no formal process for selecting
the RM, so I may already be stuck with the job, but I thought it best to
pipe up
Xavier Morel writes:
On 2011-11-22, at 17:41 , Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Barry Warsaw writes:
Hopefully, we're going to be making a dent in that in the next version of
Ubuntu.
This is still a big mess in Gentoo and MacPorts, though. MacPorts
hasn't done anything about ceating
On Nov 22, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Larry Hastings wrote:
I've volunteered to be the Release Manager for Python 3.4.
Awesome. Thanks for stepping up.
The FLUFL has already given it his Sloppy Wet Kiss Of Approval,
E!
and we talked to Georg and he was for it too. There's no formal
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:27:24PM -0800, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
On Nov 22, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Larry Hastings wrote:
But look! I'm already practicing: NO YOU CAN'T CHECK THAT IN. How's that?
Needs work?
You could try a more positive leadership style: THAT LOOKS GREAT, I'M SURE
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:27:24 -0800
Raymond Hettinger raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
But look! I'm already practicing: NO YOU CAN'T CHECK THAT IN. How's that?
Needs work?
You could try a more positive leadership style: THAT LOOKS GREAT, I'M SURE
THE RM FOR PYTHON 3.5 WILL LOVE
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
I've volunteered to be the Release Manager for Python 3.4. The FLUFL has
That's cool. But just my thought, wouldn't it be better for someone
who regularly commits, fixes bugs and feature requests be better for a
RM
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Senthil Kumaran sent...@uthcode.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
I've volunteered to be the Release Manager for Python 3.4. The FLUFL has
That's cool. But just my thought, wouldn't it be better for someone
On 11/22/2011 7:42 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
2011/11/22 Antoine Pitrousolip...@pitrou.net:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:42:35 -0500
Benjamin Petersonbenja...@python.org wrote:
2011/11/22 Antoine Pitrousolip...@pitrou.net:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:29:43 +0100
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
I personally strongly prefer the one-line formula to the hardcoded magic
numbers calculated from the formula. I find it much more readable. To me,
the only justification for the switch would be if there is a serious worry
In article 87fwhfqywr@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp,
Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
I haven't had the nerve to do this on MacPorts because port is such
a flaky thing (not so much port itself, but so many ports assume that
the port maintainer's local configuration is what others'
On 2011-11-23, at 04:51 , Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Xavier Morel writes:
On 2011-11-22, at 17:41 , Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Barry Warsaw writes:
Hopefully, we're going to be making a dent in that in the next version of
Ubuntu.
This is still a big mess in Gentoo and MacPorts, though.
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