[Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 405 (Python Virtual Environments)

2012-05-25 Thread Nick Coghlan
As the latest round of updates that Carl and Vinay pushed to the PEPs repo have addressed my few remaining questions, I am accepting PEP 405 for inclusion in Python 3.3. Thanks to all involved in working out the spec for what to model directly on virtualenv, and areas where cleaner solutions could

Re: [Python-Dev] VS 11 Express is Metro only.

2012-05-25 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On 24 May 2012 19:36, wrote: >> The free Visual Studio 11 Express for Windows 8 (still in beta) will >> produce both 32 and 64 bit binaries and allow multiple languages but will >> only produce Metro apps. For desktop apps, either the paid Visual Studio >> versions or the free 2010 Express releas

Re: [Python-Dev] VS 11 Express is Metro only.

2012-05-25 Thread martin
It is better documented here, and seems something to start thinking about: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/ This isn't actually better documentation, since it talks about the future, without being "official" (i.e. i

Re: [Python-Dev] VS 11 Express is Metro only.

2012-05-25 Thread Curt Hagenlocher
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:06 AM, wrote: > It is better documented here, and seems something to start thinking about: >> >> http://arstechnica.com/**information-technology/2012/** >> 05/no-cost-desktop-software-**development-is-dead-on-**windows-8/

Re: [Python-Dev] VS 11 Express is Metro only.

2012-05-25 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Curt Hagenlocher wrote: > But will it be able to target Windows XP? > > http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/690617/bug-apps-created-with-crt-and-mfc-vnext-11-cannot-be-used-on-windows-xp-sp3 The key things to remember at this point: 1. The

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: issue 14660: Implement PEP 420, namespace packages.

2012-05-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 25, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: >Is documentation coming in a separate commit? Yes. I've been reworking the import machinery documentation; it's a work-in-progress on the pep-420 feature clone ('importdocs' branch). I made some good progress and then got side-tracked, but I'm

[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2012-05-25 Thread Python tracker
ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2012-05-18 - 2012-05-25) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue. Do NOT respond to this message. Issues counts and deltas: open3440 ( +8) closed 23254 (+58) total 26694 (+66) Open issues wit

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 405 (Python Virtual Environments)

2012-05-25 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 25.05.2012 10:44, schrieb Nick Coghlan: > As the latest round of updates that Carl and Vinay pushed to the PEPs > repo have addressed my few remaining questions, I am accepting PEP 405 > for inclusion in Python 3.3. > > Thanks to all involved in working out the spec for what to model > directly

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: simplify and rewrite the zipimport part of 702009f3c0b1 a bit

2012-05-25 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 25.05.2012 07:54, schrieb benjamin.peterson: > http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a47d32a28662 > changeset: 77129:a47d32a28662 > user:Benjamin Peterson > date:Thu May 24 22:54:15 2012 -0700 > summary: > simplify and rewrite the zipimport part of 702009f3c0b1 a bit > > files:

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: simplify and rewrite the zipimport part of 702009f3c0b1 a bit

2012-05-25 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Fri, 25 May 2012 18:57:57 +0200 Georg Brandl wrote: > Am 25.05.2012 07:54, schrieb benjamin.peterson: > > http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a47d32a28662 > > changeset: 77129:a47d32a28662 > > user:Benjamin Peterson > > date:Thu May 24 22:54:15 2012 -0700 > > summary: > > sim

[Python-Dev] doc change for weakref

2012-05-25 Thread Ethan Furman
I'd like to make a slight doc change for weakref to state (more or less): weakrefs are not invalidated when the strong refs are gone, but rather when garbage collection reclaims the object Should this be accurate for all implementations, or should it be more along the lines of: we

Re: [Python-Dev] doc change for weakref

2012-05-25 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2012/5/25 Ethan Furman : > I'd like to make a slight doc change for weakref to state (more or less): > >   weakrefs are not invalidated when the strong refs >   are gone, but rather when garbage collection >   reclaims the object I think this is fine. -- Regards, Benjamin _

Re: [Python-Dev] doc change for weakref

2012-05-25 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Fri, 25 May 2012 10:21:39 -0700 Ethan Furman wrote: > I'd like to make a slight doc change for weakref to state (more or less): > > weakrefs are not invalidated when the strong refs > are gone, but rather when garbage collection > reclaims the object > > Should this be accurate fo

[Python-Dev] Rietveld update

2012-05-25 Thread martin
As some have probably noticed: I updated the Rietveld version that we use to the current code base. There have been a few incompatible changes (schema, GAE API) which I hope I resolved. If you find new problems, please report them to the meta tracker. Regards, Martin ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Volunteering to be PEP czar for PEP 421, sys.implementation

2012-05-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 21, 2012, at 05:24 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >I've mentioned this in private to a few folks, with generally positive >feedback. > >I am formally volunteering to be PEP czar for PEP 421, sys.implementation. If >there are no objections in the next few days, I'll make it official. I received n

Re: [Python-Dev] sys.implementation

2012-05-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 17, 2012, at 07:19 AM, Eric Snow wrote: >PEP 421 has reached a good place and I'd like to ask for pronouncement. As the newly self-appointed PEP 421 czar, I hereby accept this PEP. Eric, you've done a masterful job at balancing and addressing the input from the Python development communit

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 405 (Python Virtual Environments)

2012-05-25 Thread Vinay Sajip
Georg Brandl gmx.net> writes: > Great! Please remember that the next 3.3 alpha is scheduled for this > weekend, so please let me know in which timescale you plan to implement > this PEP. If you want to commit it before this alpha, I can shift it > by a few days, but not a whole week since I'm o

Re: [Python-Dev] sys.implementation

2012-05-25 Thread Eric Snow
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On May 17, 2012, at 07:19 AM, Eric Snow wrote: > >>PEP 421 has reached a good place and I'd like to ask for pronouncement. > > As the newly self-appointed PEP 421 czar, I hereby accept this PEP. > > Eric, you've done a masterful job at balanc

Re: [Python-Dev] doc change for weakref

2012-05-25 Thread Tim Delaney
On 26 May 2012 03:46, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Fri, 25 May 2012 10:21:39 -0700 > Ethan Furman wrote: > > I'd like to make a slight doc change for weakref to state (more or less): > > > > weakrefs are not invalidated when the strong refs > > are gone, but rather when garbage collection

Re: [Python-Dev] doc change for weakref

2012-05-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Ethan Furman wrote: I'd like to make a slight doc change for weakref to state (more or less): What specific part of the docs are you planning to change? My guess is that you want to change this start of the third paragraph: http://docs.python.org/py3k/library/weakref.html [quote] A weak refe

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 405 (Python Virtual Environments)

2012-05-25 Thread Vinay Sajip
Georg Brandl gmx.net> writes: > Great! Please remember that the next 3.3 alpha is scheduled for this > weekend, so please let me know in which timescale you plan to implement > this PEP. If you want to commit it before this alpha, I can shift it > by a few days, but not a whole week since I'm o