Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:14:17 +1000 Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:43 AM, R. David Murray > wrote: > > When the removal was being pondered, the possibility of keeping certain > > bits that were more ready than others was discussed. Perhaps the best > > way forward is to put it b

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Donald Stufft
On Thursday, September 13, 2012 at 5:38 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Most people use distutils / packaging as > an application, not a library. If you provide only a subset of > the necessary features, people won't use packaging. Not that I think current usage patterns matter since moving from setup

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 9/13/12 11:38 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:14:17 +1000 Nick Coghlan wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:43 AM, R. David Murray wrote: When the removal was being pondered, the possibility of keeping certain bits that were more ready than others was discussed. Perhaps the b

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > Here's my proposal - actually it's Nick's proposal but I want to make sure > we're on the same > page wrt steps, and I think that addresses Antoine concerns > > 1. create a new package, called pkglib (or whatever), located at hg > .python.org a

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Donald Stufft
On Thursday, September 13, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > > Yeah but we've been too ambitious. > > Here's my proposal - actually it's Nick's proposal but I want to make > sure we're on the same > page wrt steps, and I think that addresses Antoine concerns > > 1. create a new package,

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Paul Moore
On 13 September 2012 12:32, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > Here's my proposal - actually it's Nick's proposal but I want to make sure > we're on the same > page wrt steps, and I think that addresses Antoine concerns > > 1. create a new package, called pkglib (or whatever), located at hg > .python.org as a n

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 9/13/12 2:45 PM, Paul Moore wrote: 4. ask each project to pour in pkglib anything that can be reused by others +1, although again it'll be down to the projects whether they do actually contribute. Also this somewhat contradicts the "be strict" point above, which is why I'm lukewarm on "be str

[Python-Dev] unsupported doctest directives in Doc/library/ctypes.rst

2012-09-13 Thread Chris Jerdonek
In the process of studying the global state of our doctests, I noticed that the doctests in Doc/library/ctypes.rst use the following doctest directives: # doctest: +LINUX # doctest: +WINDOWS However, I'm not able to find evidence that these directives are implemented anywhere. Thus I get an erro

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Chris Jerdonek wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> Here's my proposal - actually it's Nick's proposal but I want to make sure >> we're on the same >> page wrt steps, and I think that addresses Antoine concerns >> >> 1. create a new pack

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Anyway, the essential idea of getting those 4 modules (and support > libraries) that almost made it into 3.3 into sufficiently good shape > that they can be distributed independently of distutils2 and adopted > as a dependency by multiple pro

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Éric Araujo
Hi, Le 13/09/2012 10:34, Nick Coghlan a écrit : > Actually, I'd be happy to do the rearrangement needed to turn pkgutil > into a package rather than the current single module. I very much prefer not mixing pkgutil (dealing with packages that you import) and build/distribution/installation support

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Éric Araujo wrote: > Hi, > > Le 13/09/2012 10:34, Nick Coghlan a écrit : >> Actually, I'd be happy to do the rearrangement needed to turn pkgutil >> into a package rather than the current single module. > > I very much prefer not mixing pkgutil (dealing with packa

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Éric Araujo wrote: > Hi, > > Le 13/09/2012 10:34, Nick Coghlan a écrit : >> Actually, I'd be happy to do the rearrangement needed to turn pkgutil >> into a package rather than the current single module. > > I very much prefer not mixing pkgutil (dealing with packa

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Erik Bray
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:38 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:14:17 +1000 > Nick Coghlan wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:43 AM, R. David Murray >> wrote: >> > When the removal was being pondered, the possibility of keeping certain >> > bits that were more ready than others

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (2.7): #15437, #15439: merge Doc/ACKS.txt with Misc/ACKS and modify Doc/about.rst

2012-09-13 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:00 PM, ezio.melotti wrote: > http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/76dd082d332e > changeset: 79022:76dd082d332e > branch: 2.7 > parent: 79014:8f847f66a49f > user:Ezio Melotti > date:Fri Sep 14 01:58:33 2012 +0300 > summary: > #15437, #15439: merg

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (2.7): #15437, #15439: merge Doc/ACKS.txt with Misc/ACKS and modify Doc/about.rst

2012-09-13 Thread Ezio Melotti
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Chris Jerdonek wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:00 PM, ezio.melotti > wrote: >> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/76dd082d332e >> changeset: 79022:76dd082d332e >> branch: 2.7 >> parent: 79014:8f847f66a49f >> user:Ezio Melotti >> date: