Re: [Python-Dev] accept the wheel PEPs 425, 426, 427

2012-10-24 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 18 Oct, 2012, at 19:29, Daniel Holth wrote: > I'd like to submit the Wheel PEPs 425 (filename metadata), 426 > (Metadata 1.3), and 427 (wheel itself) for acceptance. The format has > been stable since May and we are preparing a patch to support it in > pip, but we need to earn consensus befor

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Python 3.3 can't sort memoryviews as they're unorderable

2012-10-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
(Oops, originally replied only to Mark) Is a 3x3 array greater or less than a 2x4 array or another 3x3 array? The contents of a 1D memory view may be sortable, but the "logical structure" part isn't, and neither is any multi-dimensional view. I'm surprised by the lack of inheritance support thou

Re: [Python-Dev] accept the wheel PEPs 425, 426, 427

2012-10-24 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 18 Oct, 2012, at 19:29, Daniel Holth wrote: > I'd like to submit the Wheel PEPs 425 (filename metadata), 426 > (Metadata 1.3), and 427 (wheel itself) for acceptance. The format has > been stable since May and we are preparing a patch to support it in > pip, but we need to earn consensus befor

Re: [Python-Dev] accept the wheel PEPs 425, 426, 427

2012-10-24 Thread Daniel Holth
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 18 Oct, 2012, at 19:29, Daniel Holth wrote: > >> I'd like to submit the Wheel PEPs 425 (filename metadata), 426 >> (Metadata 1.3), and 427 (wheel itself) for acceptance. The format has >> been stable since May and we are preparing a p

Re: [Python-Dev] accept the wheel PEPs 425, 426, 427

2012-10-24 Thread Daniel Holth
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 18 Oct, 2012, at 19:29, Daniel Holth wrote: > >> I'd like to submit the Wheel PEPs 425 (filename metadata), 426 >> (Metadata 1.3), and 427 (wheel itself) for acceptance. The format has >> been stable since May and we are preparing a p

Re: [Python-Dev] Split unicodeobject.c into subfiles

2012-10-24 Thread Larry Hastings
On 10/23/2012 09:29 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: Especially since you're suggesting a huge number of new files, I question the argument of better navigability. FWIW I'm -1 on it too. I don't see what the big deal is with "large" source files. If you have difficulty finding your way around unicod

[Python-Dev] Some joker is trying to unsubscribe me

2012-10-24 Thread Guido van Rossum
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Re: [Python-Dev] Python Bug Day in October

2012-10-24 Thread Maciej Szulik
On 10/24/2012 03:19 AM, Éric Araujo wrote: Hello, Le 12/10/2012 13:50, Petri Lehtinen a écrit : It's two and a half weeks left, but I've not seen any announcements yet! Indeed, work and other commitments took over, so we (Montréal-Python) decided to move the bug day instead of announcing it la

Re: [Python-Dev] Split unicodeobject.c into subfiles

2012-10-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Oct 25, 2012 2:06 AM, "Larry Hastings" wrote: > > On 10/23/2012 09:29 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: >> >> Especially since you're suggesting a huge number of new files, I question the >> argument of better navigability. > > > FWIW I'm -1 on it too. I don't see what the big deal is with "large" sourc

Re: [Python-Dev] Some joker is trying to unsubscribe me

2012-10-24 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > I've received three messages in the past hour from mailman at > python.org notifying me of various attempts to receive a password > reminder or to remove me from python-dev. I hope they don't succeed. Are you asking us to CC you on all

Re: [Python-Dev] Split unicodeobject.c into subfiles

2012-10-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 25, 2012, at 08:15 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >OK, I need to weigh in after seeing this kind of reply. Large source files >are discouraged in general because they're a code smell that points >strongly towards a *lack of modularity* within a *complex piece of >functionality*. Modularity is goo

Re: [Python-Dev] Split unicodeobject.c into subfiles

2012-10-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Oct 25, 2012, at 08:15 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >>OK, I need to weigh in after seeing this kind of reply. Large source files >>are discouraged in general because they're a code smell that points >>strongly towards a *lack of modularity* wi

Re: [Python-Dev] Split unicodeobject.c into subfiles

2012-10-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Nick Coghlan writes: > OK, I need to weigh in after seeing this kind of reply. Large source files > are discouraged in general because they're a code smell that points > strongly towards a *lack of modularity* within a *complex piece of > functionality*. Sure, but large numbers of tiny source

Re: [Python-Dev] Split unicodeobject.c into subfiles

2012-10-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Nick Coghlan writes: > > > OK, I need to weigh in after seeing this kind of reply. Large source files > > are discouraged in general because they're a code smell that points > > strongly towards a *lack of modularity* within a *compl

Re: [Python-Dev] Split unicodeobject.c into subfiles

2012-10-24 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 25.10.2012 08:42, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> Why are any of these codecs here in unicodeobjectland in the first >> place? Sure, they're needed so that Python can find its own stuff, >> but in principle *any* codec could be needed. Is it just an heuristic >> that the codecs needed for 99% of the wo