Re: [Python-Dev] Cut/Copy/Paste items in IDLE right click context menu

2012-11-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > [snip reasons] > OK, I am convinced an info PEP would be a good idea. Unless anyone objects, I'm happy to be BDFL-delegate for such a PEP. I mainly want to ensure we clearly fence off "IDLE-the-application", with (in effect) a 6 month release c

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (3.3): Issue #15814: Use hash function that is compatible with the equality

2012-11-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:07 AM, stefan.krah wrote: > +# equality-hash invariant > +x = ndarray(list(range(12)), shape=[12], format='B') > +a = memoryview(nd) > + > +y = ndarray(list(range(12)), shape=[12], format='b') > +b = memoryview(nd) > + > +z =

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (3.3): Issue #15814: Use hash function that is compatible with the equality

2012-11-03 Thread Stefan Krah
Nick Coghlan wrote: > > +if (b == c): > > +self.assertEqual(hash(b), hash(c)) > > These checks could do with a comment explaining why the if statements > are needed (I'm assuming something to do with memory order). The checks aren't needed; they were supposed to spell out the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (3.3): Issue #15814: Use hash function that is compatible with the equality

2012-11-03 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:59:23 +0100 Stefan Krah wrote: > Nick Coghlan wrote: > > > +if (b == c): > > > +self.assertEqual(hash(b), hash(c)) > > > > These checks could do with a comment explaining why the if statements > > are needed (I'm assuming something to do with memory orde

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.3 vs. Python 2.7 benchmark results (again, but this time more solid numbers)

2012-11-03 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > Issue filed for the performance issue: http://bugs.python.org/issue16390 > > With that change and running on tip of Mako on my laptop now reports 1.25x > slower which is much better than it was. This performance issue might also > explain why a

Re: [Python-Dev] Using Wiki for Python development coordination

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Boddie
On Saturday 03 November 2012 12:29:57 anatoly techtonik wrote: > I don't have access to modify the front page. > http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage Yes, access was restricted a while ago because of spamming. > To me it lacks one more section concerning help with core development > infrastructu

Re: [Python-Dev] Using Wiki for Python development coordination

2012-11-03 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: > > > I'll admit that the current content is just a reformatted version of what was > there before, but tidied up and making better use of vertical space, and it > could be improved. Certainly, there isn't a core development section, so > perhaps

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.3 vs. Python 2.7 benchmark results (again, but this time more solid numbers)

2012-11-03 Thread Brett Cannon
I'm not modifying any benchmark or framework. At best I will replace Mako 0.7.2 with Mako 0.7.3 in the benchmark suite since no one is historically recording the mako_v2 benchmark yet and it should be running with the newest version until we set it in stone. On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Macie

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #16218: skip test if filesystem doesn't support required encoding

2012-11-03 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 13:37:48 +0100 (CET) andrew.svetlov wrote: > http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/95d1adf144ee > changeset: 80187:95d1adf144ee > user:Andrew Svetlov > date:Sat Nov 03 14:37:37 2012 +0200 > summary: > Issue #16218: skip test if filesystem doesn't support require

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] peps: Revert PEP 430 to Final.

2012-11-03 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:07 AM, nick.coghlan wrote: > > http://hg.python.org/peps/rev/1ccf682bdfc9 > changeset: 4575:1ccf682bdfc9 > user:Nick Coghlan > date:Sun Oct 28 22:06:46 2012 +1000 > summary: > Revert PEP 430 to Final. > ... > -To help ensure future stability even of l

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] peps: Revert PEP 430 to Final.

2012-11-03 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > > On 11/3/2012 1:36 PM, Chris Jerdonek wrote: >> >> I noticed on an older issue in the tracker that the following deep, >> in-development link is broken: >> >> http://docs.python.org/dev/2.6/library/multiprocessing.html >> >> (in comment http:/