Re: [Python-Dev] The end of 2.7

2013-04-08 Thread Terry Jan Reedy
On 4/7/2013 2:02 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: There's not much of a point in fixing bugs that always existed in 2.7, I has been suggested that backporting bugfix patches from current 3.x to 2.7 will make it easier to port from the atest 2.7.x to 3.x. I have no idea how true that is. since

Re: [Python-Dev] The end of 2.7

2013-04-08 Thread Ned Deily
In article cap7+vjlzb5xl8cxbmibunnig9y4+49f17vmfb9lznf0asnx...@mail.gmail.com, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: [...] But perhaps we could change the focus for 2.7 development a bit: instead of fixing bugs (or bickering about whether something is a bug fix or a new feature) we could

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (3.3): Process DEFAULT values in mock side_effect that returns iterator.

2013-04-08 Thread Michael Foord
On 7 April 2013 14:44, andrew.svetlov python-check...@python.org wrote: http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/18fd64f1de2d changeset: 83179:18fd64f1de2d branch: 3.3 user:Andrew Svetlov andrew.svet...@gmail.com date:Sun Apr 07 16:42:24 2013 +0300 summary: Process DEFAULT

Re: [Python-Dev] The end of 2.7

2013-04-08 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.orgwrote: Per my last message, 2.7.4 has at long last been released. I apologize for the long interval between 2.7.3 and 2.7.4. To create more determinism in the future, I will be soon updating PEP 373 with approximate dates of

Re: [Python-Dev] The end of 2.7

2013-04-08 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Christian Tismer tis...@stackless.comwrote: On 07.04.13 14:10, Skip Montanaro wrote: Where I work (a trading firm that uses Python as just one of many different pieces of technology, not a company where Python is the core technology upon which the firm is

Re: [Python-Dev] The end of 2.7

2013-04-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 08/04/2013 16:42, Stephen Hansen wrote: The thing is, 2.7 works. Some third-party libraries we rely upon have no clear sign for when they will be ported (such as wxPython), and though we are transitioning away from certain others (omniORB for Apache Thrift for example), that process itself

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (3.3): Process DEFAULT values in mock side_effect that returns iterator.

2013-04-08 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 10:52:30 +0100 Michael Foord fuzzy...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 April 2013 14:44, andrew.svetlov python-check...@python.org wrote: http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/18fd64f1de2d changeset: 83179:18fd64f1de2d branch: 3.3 user:Andrew Svetlov

[Python-Dev] Fwd: SourceForge Project Upgrade Notification

2013-04-08 Thread Skip Montanaro
Obviously SourceForge doesn't think the current release interval is short enough. (Emphasis mine.) :-) Skip -- Forwarded message -- From: SourceForge.net noreply+project-upgr...@in.sf.net Date: Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:09 PM Subject: SourceForge Project Upgrade Notification To:

Re: [Python-Dev] The end of 2.7

2013-04-08 Thread Giampaolo RodolĂ 
2013/4/8 Stephen Hansen me+pyt...@ixokai.io: On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Christian Tismer tis...@stackless.com wrote: On 07.04.13 14:10, Skip Montanaro wrote: Where I work (a trading firm that uses Python as just one of many different pieces of technology, not a company where Python is

Re: [Python-Dev] The end of 2.7

2013-04-08 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 07.04.2013 20:02, schrieb Guido van Rossum: But perhaps we could change the focus for 2.7 development a bit: instead of fixing bugs (or bickering about whether something is a bug fix or a new feature) we could limit changes to ensuring that it works on newer platforms. Martin mentioned that

[Python-Dev] Python accepted as a GSoC 2013 mentoring organization!

2013-04-08 Thread Terri Oda
Congratulations all; we've been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2013! Students can check out our ideas page here: http://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/2013 If you're interested in mentoring with the PSF and aren't already on the 2013 mentors mailing list,

Re: [Python-Dev] The end of 2.7

2013-04-08 Thread Skip Montanaro
If from the start you use: - six ... There's the rub. We are not blessed with Guido's time machine where I work. Much of the Python code we run was written long before six was a gleam in anybody's eye. Heck, some of it was probably written before some active members of python-dev graduated

Re: [Python-Dev] The end of 2.7

2013-04-08 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/08/2013 04:40 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: I'm really amazed at how many people seem to have the impression that porting to Python 3 should be no big deal. FWIW, the effort of porting the modern bits of the Zope ecosystem (the ones I still use

Re: [Python-Dev] The end of 2.7

2013-04-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Apr 08, 2013, at 05:08 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: FWIW, the effort of porting the modern bits of the Zope ecosystem (the ones I still use in Pyramid apps today, meaning the component architecture, the ZODB, and a few others) soaked up basically all

Re: [Python-Dev] The end of 2.7

2013-04-08 Thread Antonio Cavallo
It almost always comes down to bytes vs. strings, IME. Cool, next time I have to port an extension written in C/C++ I'll be looking only for bytes vs. strings problems. I knew it was easy. Thanks ___ Python-Dev mailing list