I've had some offline discussion with Brett and Nick about PEP 451
which has led to some meaningful clarifications in the PEP. In the
interest of pulling further discussions back onto this
(archived/public) list, here's an update of what we'd discussed and
where things are at. :)
* path entry
Le Thu, 24 Oct 2013 00:38:02 +0200,
Christian Heimes christ...@python.org a écrit :
Am 23.10.2013 23:37, schrieb Charles-François Natali:
Hi,
What's the current status of pathlib? Is it targeted for 3.4?
It would be a really nice addition, and AFAICT it has already been
maturing a
On Tuesday, Apple released OS X 10.9 (a.k.a. Mavericks). There has already
been a lot of interest in it, in part because Apple has made it available for
free and has made it easy for users with 10.8, 10.7, and (most) 10.6 systems
to upgrade directly to 10.9. Unfortunately, there are issues
Am 24.10.2013 11:11, schrieb Ned Deily:
I don't know where any other potential 2.7.6 or 3.3.3 issues stand at this
point. But I'd like Benjamin and Georg to propose an aggressive schedule so
we can get these fixes out there.
We've basically agreed to do rc releases this weekend. I don't
Am 24.10.2013 11:26, schrieb Georg Brandl:
Am 24.10.2013 11:11, schrieb Ned Deily:
I don't know where any other potential 2.7.6 or 3.3.3 issues stand at this
point. But I'd like Benjamin and Georg to propose an aggressive schedule so
we can get these fixes out there.
We've basically
2013/10/24 Christian Heimes christ...@python.org:
There seems to be a problem with the security fix Re-seed OpenSSL's
PRNG after fork:
http://bugs.python.org/issue18747
http://bugs.python.org/issue19227
Yes, Charles Francois warned us that adding a pthread_atfork() hook to
add entropy
On 24 October 2013 16:05, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com wrote:
I've had some offline discussion with Brett and Nick about PEP 451
which has led to some meaningful clarifications in the PEP. In the
interest of pulling further discussions back onto this
(archived/public) list, here's an
Am 24.10.2013 13:36, schrieb Victor Stinner:
IMO the best place to fix the bug is in OpenSSL directly: RAND_bytes()
function of OpenSSL can detect a fork using getpid() and add more
entropy (in the child or maybe in the parent process). OpenSSL has
access to entropy sources and knows all
On 24 October 2013 18:17, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Le Thu, 24 Oct 2013 00:38:02 +0200,
Christian Heimes christ...@python.org a écrit :
Am 23.10.2013 23:37, schrieb Charles-François Natali:
Hi,
What's the current status of pathlib? Is it targeted for 3.4?
It would be a
-Original Message-
From: Victor Stinner [mailto:victor.stin...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24. október 2013 01:03
To: Kristján Valur Jónsson
Cc: Python Dev
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Updated PEP 454 (tracemalloc): no more metrics!
The use case of get_traces() + get_object_trace() is to
On 24 October 2013 22:34, Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com wrote:
I understand your desire for things to be fast, but let me just re-iterate my
view
that for this kind of jobs, performance is completely secondary. Memory
debugging and analysis is an off-line, laboratory task. In
2013/10/24 Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com:
Test 1. With the Python test suite, 467,738 traces limited to 1 frame:
...
I'm surprised: it's faster than the benchmark I ran some weeks ago.
Maybe I optimized something? The most critical operation, taking a snapshot
takes half a
Kind of on a tangent (and I suspect I know what the answer to my
question will be), but here at work they have asked people who use
Macs not to upgrade to Mavericks until Apple fixes one or more
networking problems which make it basically unusable, especially when
connecting to our VPN. I realize
On Oct 24, 2013, at 02:11 AM, Ned Deily wrote:
I don't know where any other potential 2.7.6 or 3.3.3 issues stand at this
point. But I'd like Benjamin and Georg to propose an aggressive schedule so
we can get these fixes out there.
Does this problem affect 2.6? 2.6.9 final is scheduled for
-Original Message-
From: Nick Coghlan [mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24. október 2013 12:44
To: Kristján Valur Jónsson
Cc: Python Dev
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Updated PEP 454 (tracemalloc): no more metrics!
Not everything is a PC that you can just add more memory to (or switch
On 24/10/2013 15:40, Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Nick Coghlan [mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24. október 2013 12:44
To: Kristján Valur Jónsson
Cc: Python Dev
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Updated PEP 454 (tracemalloc): no more metrics!
Not everything is a PC
When I was looking for memory leaks in the regex module I simply wrote
all of the allocations, reallocations and deallocations to a log file and
then parsed it afterwards using a Python script. Simple, but effective.
He he, it's funny because you described exactly my first implementation of
2013/10/24 Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com:
Now, I would personally not truncate the stack, because I can afford the
memory,
but even if I would, for example, to hide a bunch of detail, I would want to
throw away
the _lower_ detals of the stack. It is unimportant to me to
2013/10/24 Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net:
Am 24.10.2013 11:11, schrieb Ned Deily:
I don't know where any other potential 2.7.6 or 3.3.3 issues stand at this
point. But I'd like Benjamin and Georg to propose an aggressive schedule so
we can get these fixes out there.
We've basically agreed
In article 20131024094436.230220bf@anarchist,
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Oct 24, 2013, at 02:11 AM, Ned Deily wrote:
I don't know where any other potential 2.7.6 or 3.3.3 issues stand at this
point. But I'd like Benjamin and Georg to propose an aggressive schedule so
we can
The diff doesn't show an addition to BENCH_GROUPS. Maybe apps?
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:24 PM, antoine.pitrou
python-check...@python.orgwrote:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/8939c0196990
changeset: 86603:8939c0196990
user:Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
date:Thu Oct
On 25 Oct 2013 06:42, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Oct 24, 2013, at 01:12 PM, Ned Deily wrote:
Yes, this problem also affects 2.6. There are some mitigating factors.
The
support for libedit on OS X is only enabled when building for an OS X
10.5 or
later ABI because in earlier
On Oct 25, 2013, at 07:54 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Since the default build settings work, that sounds reasonable. Perhaps
include a note somewhere that targeting a more recent ABI may involve
copying the 2.7 readline.c?
I'll probably add issue 18458 to the announcement and release page. That way
Progess on the Python3 as 'standard Python' front: Yesterday, FESCO
(Fedora Steering Committee?) approved a proposal to make Python 3
(version unspecified, I presume 3.3 or 3.4) the default Python in Fedora
22 (I did not see a date anywhere).
http://lwn.net/Articles/571528/
On 25 Oct 2013 09:02, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
Progess on the Python3 as 'standard Python' front: Yesterday, FESCO
(Fedora Steering Committee?) approved a proposal to make Python 3 (version
unspecified, I presume 3.3 or 3.4) the default Python in Fedora 22 (I did
not see a date
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