Re: [Python-Dev] Fun with ancient unsupported platforms

2016-01-28 Thread Victor Stinner
We slowly remove old platforms, but only if the code specific to these old platforms is annoying to maintain. For example, I wrote the change: https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a1605d2508af """ Issue #22591: Drop support of MS-DOS Drop support of MS-DOS, especially of the DJGPP compiler (MS-DOS

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] BAD Benchmark Results for Python Default 2016-01-26

2016-01-28 Thread Stefan Krah
IMO the timings of the benchmark suite are a bit unstable -- this is not the fault of Intel's setup, I noticed it also when running the suite myself. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 06:48:54PM +, Stewart, David C wrote: > Wow, what happened to Python default to cause such a regression? > > > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbot timing out - test suite failure - test_socket issue with UDP6?

2016-01-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > However, as I was doing so (and I just discarded a draft message where > I'd been typing up notes), my entire system went kerblooie, and I've > spent the last day rebuilding stuff from scratch. When I get around to > it,

Re: [Python-Dev] Fun with ancient unsupported platforms

2016-01-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
Just as long as you can still build and run Python on Guido's ancient SGI machine . -Barry ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] Fun with ancient unsupported platforms

2016-01-28 Thread Christian Heimes
On 2016-01-28 15:57, Larry Hastings wrote: > > > Check out and cd into Python trunk. > > % grep -Ri win16 * | wc > 10 66 625 > > % grep -Ri nextstep | wc > 23 1191328 > > % grep -Ri rhapsody * | wc > 47 2693390 > > % grep -Ri msdos * | wc > 56

Re: [Python-Dev] Fun with ancient unsupported platforms

2016-01-28 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello, On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:29:41 +0100 Victor Stinner wrote: > We slowly remove old platforms, but only if the code specific to these > old platforms is annoying to maintain. For example, I wrote the > change: > > https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a1605d2508af >

Re: [Python-Dev] FAT Python (lack of) performance

2016-01-28 Thread INADA Naoki
Please stop. I'm sorry about messing up this thread. I just wanted to represent why I'm very interested in Victor's efforts. Regards. On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 28 January 2016 at 04:40, Sven R. Kunze wrote: > > On

Re: [Python-Dev] FAT Python (lack of) performance

2016-01-28 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 28 January 2016 at 18:30, INADA Naoki wrote: > Please stop. > > I'm sorry about messing up this thread. Not your fault at all! This is just a particular bugbear of mine, since software architecture design (including appropriate programming language selection) is an

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbot timing out - test suite failure - test_socket issue with UDP6?

2016-01-28 Thread Martin Panter
> After digging through test_socket.py for over an hour (the MRO for > RecvmsgUDP6Test is enormous!!), I've boiled the issue down to this: > > import socket > MSG = b'asdf qwer zxcv' > serv = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET6, socket.SOCK_DGRAM) > serv.bind(("::1", 0)) > cli =

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbot timing out - test suite failure - test_socket issue with UDP6?

2016-01-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Martin Panter wrote: > Other things that come to mind are to see if there is anything odd > about the buildbot’s Linux kernel and glibc versions. Maybe run the > Python script under “strace” to see if anything strange is going on. > I did

Re: [Python-Dev] Fun with ancient unsupported platforms

2016-01-28 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
win16 doesn't seem to have important stuff: https://github.com/python/cpython/search?utf8=✓="win16; On January 28, 2016 8:57:20 AM CST, Larry Hastings wrote: > > >Check out and cd into Python trunk. > >% grep -Ri win16 * | wc > 10 66 625 > >% grep -Ri nextstep

[Python-Dev] Fun with ancient unsupported platforms

2016-01-28 Thread Larry Hastings
Check out and cd into Python trunk. % grep -Ri win16 * | wc 10 66 625 % grep -Ri nextstep | wc 23 1191328 % grep -Ri rhapsody * | wc 47 2693390 % grep -Ri msdos * | wc 56 3813895 % grep -Ri ms-dos * | wc 20 1801425 win16!