Re: [Python-Dev] MinGW And The other Py2.4 issue

2004-12-13 Thread Paul Moore
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:19:55 +, A.B., Khalid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [2] Can someone who has the official Python 2.4 download the sample extension [**] created using the pyMinGW patched MinGW compiled Python 2.4 and SWIG? And see if it works? Sources are in the zip file whose

Re: [Python-Dev] Deprecated xmllib module

2004-12-13 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Martin v. Lwis wrote: As for PEP 4: I don't know whether it needs to be listed there. It appears that the PEP is largely unmaintained (I, personally, do not really maintain it). So one option would be to just stop using PEP 4 for recording deprecations, since we now have the warnings module. If we

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-13 Thread Stephan Deibel
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Carlos Ribeiro wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:36:45 -0500, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, there's another problem in the corporate world that has nothing to do with Python's performance (at least not directly). When a manager has to hire 25 programmers

[Python-Dev] MinGW And The other Py2.4 issue

2004-12-13 Thread A.B., Khalid
Paul Moore wrote: I tried this out, and from some basic uses, it seems to work OK. However, the PYD file references msvcrt.dll, which suggests that there will be issues in more complex cases. The biggest problem with CRT compatibility issues is that (AFAIK) no-one has actually been able to trigger

RE: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-13 Thread Batista, Facundo
Title: RE: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places [Stephan Deibel] #- For example, a September article in InfoWorld said But the #- big winner #- this time around is the object-oriented scripting language #- Python, which #- saw a 6 percent gain in popularity, almost

RE: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-13 Thread Stephan Deibel
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Batista, Facundo wrote: [Stephan Deibel] #- For example, a September article in InfoWorld said But the #- big winner #- this time around is the object-oriented scripting language #- Python, which #- saw a 6 percent gain in popularity, almost doubling last #- year's

Re: [Python-Dev] MinGW And The other Py2.4 issue

2004-12-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Thomas Heller wrote: And recently I played with bindings to OpenGL's glut32.dll - glut calls exit() from internal C code. If linked with the wrong CRT, this will do nothing instead of terminating the process. Interesting. Looking at the code of exit(), it is clear that the wrong atexit handlers

Re: [Python-Dev] MinGW And The other Py2.4 issue

2004-12-13 Thread Paul Moore
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:17:51 +0100, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot the details of your analysis, but I think you are right. However, I would feel more comfortable if only a single CRT was used from an extension module. Agreed. But to some extent I'm equally uncomfortable

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-13 Thread Paul Moore
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:05:09 -0200, Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, but to the joke: I believe Python must strive to run at least as fast as the crowd -- Java, Perl, Ruby, Lua, Boo, etc Maybe we could visit the language shootout sites, translate Python snipets to

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-13 Thread Bill Janssen
That's right - when I talk to fellow programmers that I'm writing software in Python, many of them are amazed and ask me, but isn't it slow?. I've heard it more than once... I heard it last month. In the last couple of months, an acquaintance of mine has been trying out Python. He likes the