Philippe Biondi wrote:
I've done a small patch to use linux AF_NETLINK sockets (see below).
Please comment!
I have a high-level comment - python-dev is normally the wrong place
for patches; please submit them to sf.net/projects/python instead.
Apart from that, the patch looks fine.
Is there a reaso
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 05:17:49PM +0100, Philippe Biondi wrote:
> I've done a small patch to use linux AF_NETLINK sockets (see below).
> Please comment!
As of 2.6.10, a very useful new netlink family was merged -
NETLINK_KOBJECT_UEVENT. I'd imagine quite a lot of interest from Python
developers
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 10:08:49PM +1100, Andrew McNamara wrote:
> >Also, review comments from Neal Norwitz, 22 Mar 2003 (some of these should
> >already have been addressed):
>
> I should apologise to Neal here for not replying to him at the time.
Hey, I'm impressed you got to them. :-) I compl
Hi,
I've done a small patch to use linux AF_NETLINK sockets (see below).
Please comment!
Is there a reason for recvmsg() and sendmsg() not to be implemented
yet in socketmodule ?
The integration with autoconf has not been done, even if
this patch should be ok :
--- configure.in.ori2005-01-
At 05:42 PM 1/10/05 -0500, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Jan 10, 2005, at 16:38, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
At 07:42 PM 1/10/05 +0100, Alex Martelli wrote:
On 2005 Jan 10, at 18:43, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
...
I am not saying we shouldn't have a tp_conform; just suggesting that it
may be appropriate for func
On Jan 10, 2005, at 16:38, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
At 07:42 PM 1/10/05 +0100, Alex Martelli wrote:
On 2005 Jan 10, at 18:43, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
...
I am not saying we shouldn't have a tp_conform; just suggesting that
it may be appropriate for functions and modules (as well as classic
classes)
At 07:42 PM 1/10/05 +0100, Alex Martelli wrote:
On 2005 Jan 10, at 18:43, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
...
At 03:42 PM 1/10/05 +0100, Alex Martelli wrote:
The fourth case above is subtle. A break of substitutability can
occur when a subclass changes a method's signature, or restricts
the d
At 02:27 PM 1/10/05 -0500, Clark C. Evans wrote:
If this proposal was "packaged" with an "interface" mechanism, would
this address your concern? In this scenerio, there are two cases:
- Older classes will most likely not have a __conform__ method.
- Newer classes will use the 'interface' mecha
Alex Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> PEP: 246
> Title: Object Adaptation
Minor nit (or not?): You could provide a pointer to the Liskov
substitution principle, for those reader that aren't too familiar with
that term.
Besides, the text mentions three times that LiskovViolation is a
subcla
At 04:16 PM 1/10/05 -0800, Michel Pelletier wrote:
> From: Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 246, redux
>
> I'm wondering if someone could do a similar thing for PEP 245,
> interfaces syntax? Alex hinted that it's a couple of rounds behind the
> developments in Zo
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:37:17 +1100, Andrew McNamara
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>csv.join(aList, e[, dialect='excel'[, fmtparam]]) -> str object
Oops, should have been
csv.join(aList [, dialect='excel'[, fmtparam]]) -> str object
>Yes, it's feasible,
Good!
>although newlines can be embedded i
On Monday 10 January 2005 09:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:46:39 -0800
> From: Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 246, redux
> To: Alex Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Clark C.Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Python Dev
>
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 01:34:59PM -0500, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
| The performance penalty I was talking about was for using an abstract
| base class, in a subclass with a __conform__ method for conformance to
| other protocols. In this case, __conform__ will be uselessly called
| every time the
Alex Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I didn't know about the "let the object lie" quirk in isinstance. If
> that quirk is indeed an intended design feature, rather than an
> implementation 'oops', it might perhaps be worth documenting it more
> clearly; I do not find that clearly spelled o
On 2005 Jan 10, at 18:43, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
...
At 03:42 PM 1/10/05 +0100, Alex Martelli wrote:
The fourth case above is subtle. A break of substitutability can
occur when a subclass changes a method's signature, or restricts
the domains accepted for a method's argument ("co-var
At 01:19 PM 1/10/05 -0500, Clark C. Evans wrote:
Alex,
This is wonderful work, thank you for keeping the ball in the air;
I'm honored to keep my name as a co-author -- kinda like a free lunch.
Phillip,
Once again, thank you! Without PyProtocols and your advocacy,
this proposal might have b
Alex,
This is wonderful work, thank you for keeping the ball in the air;
I'm honored to keep my name as a co-author -- kinda like a free lunch.
Phillip,
Once again, thank you! Without PyProtocols and your advocacy,
this proposal might have been buried in the historical bit-bucket.
On M
At 12:43 PM 1/10/05 -0500, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
As a practical matter, all of the existing interface systems (Zope,
PyProtocols, and even the defunct Twisted implementation) treat interface
inheritance as guaranteeing substitutability for the base interface, and
do so transitively.
An additiona
At 03:42 PM 1/10/05 +0100, Alex Martelli wrote:
The fourth case above is subtle. A break of substitutability can
occur when a subclass changes a method's signature, or restricts
the domains accepted for a method's argument ("co-variance" on
arguments types), or extends the co-domai
> I had been promising to rewrite PEP 246 to incorporate the last several
> years' worth of discussions &c about it, and Guido's recent "stop the
> flames" artima blog post finally pushed me to complete the work.
> Feedback is of course welcome, so I thought I had better repost it
> here, rather th
On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 09:40, Michael Chermside wrote:
> Barry writes:
> > As an experiment, I just added a PEP topic to the python-checkins
> > mailing list. You could subscribe to this list and just select the PEP
> > topic (which matches the regex "PEP" in the Subject header or first few
> > lin
Title: RE: [Python-Dev] os.removedirs() vs. shutil.rmtree()
[Johannes Gijsbers]
#- So they're not identical, but I do agree they should be consolidated
#- and moved into one module. I'd say shutil, both because the os
#- module is already awfully crowded, and because these functions are
#- "
I had been promising to rewrite PEP 246 to incorporate the last several
years' worth of discussions &c about it, and Guido's recent "stop the
flames" artima blog post finally pushed me to complete the work.
Feedback is of course welcome, so I thought I had better repost it
here, rather than re
Barry writes:
> As an experiment, I just added a PEP topic to the python-checkins
> mailing list. You could subscribe to this list and just select the PEP
> topic (which matches the regex "PEP" in the Subject header or first few
> lines of the body).
>
> Give it a shot and let's see if that does t
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