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PEP 342 Generator enhance
[Donovan Baarda]
> It is true that some well designed/developed software becomes reliable
> very quicky. However, it still takes heavy use over time to prove that.
There is wisdom in your say! :-)
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François Pinard http://pinard.progiciels-bpi.ca
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On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 11:59, Gabriel Becedillas wrote:
> Donovan Baarda wrote:
[...]
> > Wow... you guys sure did it the hard way. If you had done it at the
> > Python level, you would have had a much easier time of both implementing
> > and updating it.
[...]
> Hi, thanks for your reply.
> The pro
At 09:02 PM 8/2/2005 -0400, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
>The Py3.0 PEPs are a bit disconcerting. Without 3.0 actively in
>development, it is difficult to get the participation, interest, and
>seriousness of thought that we apply to the current release. The PEPs
>may have the effect of prematurely fi
The Py3.0 PEPs are a bit disconcerting. Without 3.0 actively in
development, it is difficult to get the participation, interest, and
seriousness of thought that we apply to the current release. The PEPs
may have the effect of prematurely finalizing discussions on something
that still has an ether
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 09:06, François Pinard wrote:
> [Raymond Hettinger]
>
> > >http://www.venge.net/monotone/
>
> > The current release is 0.21 which suggests that it is not ready for
> > primetime.
>
> It suggests it, yes, and to me as well. On the other hand, there is
> a common prejudi
> "Willem" == Willem Broekema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Willem> On 8/2/05, Stephen J. Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I don't see it that way. Rather, "Raisable" is the closest
>> equivalent to "serious-condition", and "CriticalException" is
>> an intermediate class
OK, having taken in all of the suggestions, here is another revision
round. I think I still have a place or two I partially ignored people
just because there was not a severe uproar and I still think the
original idea is good (renaming RuntimeError, for instance). I also
added notes on handling t
François Pinard wrote:
> So, it might be worth at least a quick look? :-)
Certainly not my look - although I'm willing to integrate
anything that people contribute into the PEP.
Regards,
Martin
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M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> True, but if we never ask, we'll never know :-)
>
> My question was: Would asking a professional hosting company
> be a reasonable approach ?
It would be an option, yes, of course. It's not an approach that
*I* would be willing to implement, though.
>>From the answers, I ta
On 8/2/05, Stephen J. Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't see it that way. Rather, "Raisable" is the closest equivalent
> to "serious-condition", and "CriticalException" is an intermediate
> class that has no counterpart in Lisp usage.
That would imply that all raisables are 'serious' i
Donovan Baarda wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 10:36, Gabriel Becedillas wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>We embbeded Python 2.0.1 in our product a few years ago and we'd like to
>>upgrade to Python 2.4.1. This was not a simple task, because we needed
>>to execute syscalls on a remote host. We modified Python's s
On 8/2/05, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 08:00 PM 8/2/2005 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
[SNIP]
> Or maybe we
> should just make the primary hierarchy the way we want it to be, and only
> cross-link exceptions to StandardError that were previously under
> StandardError, i.e.:
>
>
[Raymond Hettinger]
> >http://www.venge.net/monotone/
> The current release is 0.21 which suggests that it is not ready for
> primetime.
It suggests it, yes, and to me as well. On the other hand, there is
a common prejudice that something requires many releases, or frequent
releases, to be
At 10:53 AM 8/2/2005 -0400, James Y Knight wrote:
>No... KeyboardInterrupt (just like other asynchronous exceptions)
>really should be treated as a critical error. Doing anything other
>than killing your process off after receiving it is just inviting
>disaster. Because the exception can have occur
At 08:00 PM 8/2/2005 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>Python 2.4 Compatible Improved Exception Hierarchy v 0.1
>
>
>Exception
>+-- ControlFlowException (new)
> +-- GeneratorExit (new)
> +-- StopIteration
> +-- SystemExit
> +
At 04:13 PM 8/2/2005 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>Now, somebody proposed:
>
>Raisable -+- Exception
> +- ...
> +- ControlFlowException -+- StopIteration
>+- KeyboardInterrupt
>
>As I wrote above, I see no use for that; I think that's wha
"falcon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hello python-list,
>
> As I Understood, semantic may be next:
[snip]
This was properly posted to the general Python discussion group/list.
Reposted here, to the Python development list/group, it is offtopic.
If you did not g
On Jul 31, 2005, at 12:49 PM, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> I think you're ignoring the part where most exception handlers are
> already broken. At least adding CriticalException and
> ControlFlowException makes it possible to add this:
>
> try:
> ...
> except (CriticalException,Con
[François Pinard]
> While some say Subversion is the most reasonable avenue nowadays,
others
> them told me they found something more appealing than Subversion:
>
>http://www.venge.net/monotone/
The current release is 0.21 which suggests that it is not ready for
primetime.
Raymond
On Aug 2, 2005, at 12:31 AM, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> If you think that a KeyboardInterrupt is an error, then it's an
> indication
> that Python's documentation and the current exception class
> hierarchy has
> failed to educate you sufficiently, and that we *really* need to add a
> class like C
[Martin von Löwis]
> The PEP is only about Subversion. I think anything but Subversion is
> ruled out because:
> - there is no offer to host that anywhere (for subversion, there is
> already svn.python.org)
> - there is no support for converting a CVS repository (for subversion,
> there is cvs2
Hello python-list,
As I Understood, semantic may be next:
def qwerty(a,a.i,b,b.i,f.j):
pass
Would work like:
def qwerty(anonymous1,anonymous2,anonymous3,anonymous4,anonymous5):
(a,a.i,b,b.i,f.j)=(anonymous1,anonymous2,anonymous3,anonymous4,anonymous5)
del anonymous1
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 11:00, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> With this hierarchy, the recommended parent class for application errors
> becomes Error, ...
And presumably Error could also be the recommended exception for
quick'n'dirty scripts.
Mark Russell
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Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is why I don't bother migrating any existing CVS projects to SVN;
> the benefits don't yet outweigh the pain of migrating.
I think they do. I was on dialup for a while, and would have _loved_
Python to be using SVN then -- and given how long diff
Nick Coghlan wrote:
> I have a Python 2.5 candidate hierarchy below, which uses dual inheritance to
> avoid breaking backward compatibility - any existing except clauses will
> catch
> all of the exceptions they used to catch. The only new inheritance introduced
> is to new exceptions, also avo
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Now, somebody proposed:
>
> Raisable -+- Exception
> +- ...
> +- ControlFlowException -+- StopIteration
>+- KeyboardInterrupt
>
> As I wrote above, I see no use for that
The use for it is :
try:
# do st
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > The PSF does have a reasonable budget, so why not use it to
> > maintain the infrastructure needed for Python development and
> > let a company do the administration of the needed servers and
> > the importing of the CSV and tracker items into t
George V. Neville-Neil wrote:
> Since Python is Open Source are you looking at Per Force which you can
> use for free and seems to be a happy medium between something like CVS
> and something horrific like Clear Case?
No. The PEP is only about Subversion. Why should we be looking at Per
Force? Onl
> "Phillip" == Phillip J Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Phillip> You just said, "Unhandled, KeyboardInterrupt means..."
Phillip> If the program doesn't *want* to handle
Phillip> KeyboardInterrupt, then it obviously *isn't* critical,
Phillip> because it doesn't care. Conversel
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