Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-15 Thread Georg Brandl
Terry Reedy schrieb: > "Georg Brandl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | Terry Reedy schrieb: > | > How about asking a Python specific question, with answered filled in > rather > | > that multiple choice selected: I would be willing to make up a bunch. > > And I

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-15 Thread Talin
Terry Reedy wrote: > My underlying point: seeing porno spam on the practice site gave me a bad > itch both because I detest spammers in general and because I would not want > visitors turned off to Python by something that is completely out of place > and potentially offensive to some. So I am

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-15 Thread Terry Reedy
""Martin v. Löwis"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |> If we anticipate users rather than programmers to register (as if so, it | > would be nice to collect that info to formulate sensible responses), then | > questions like | > The orb that shines in the sky during t

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-15 Thread Terry Reedy
"Georg Brandl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Terry Reedy schrieb: | > How about asking a Python specific question, with answered filled in rather | > that multiple choice selected: I would be willing to make up a bunch. And I would spend longer than a couple of

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-15 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> The orb that shines in the sky during the day. > > Martin> This question I could not answer, because I don't know what an > Martin> orb is (it's not an object request broker, right?) > > Martin> Is the answer "sun"? > > It is indeed.

Re: [Python-Dev] marshal and ssize_t (PEP 353)

2007-05-15 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 5/15/07, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm looking at Python/marshal.c and there are a lot of places that > > don't support sequences that are larger than would fit into size(int). > > I looked for marshal referenced in the PEP and didn't find anything. > > Was this an oversig

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-15 Thread Mike Klaas
On 15-May-07, at 12:32 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: > > There are two problems with this: > * The set of questions is limited, and bots can be programmed to > know them all. Sure, but if someone is customizing their bot to python's issue tracker, in all likelyhood they would have to be dealt with

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-15 Thread skip
>> The orb that shines in the sky during the day. Martin> This question I could not answer, because I don't know what an Martin> orb is (it's not an object request broker, right?) Martin> Is the answer "sun"? It is indeed. I would use "star" instead of "orb". It might be

Re: [Python-Dev] marshal and ssize_t (PEP 353)

2007-05-15 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 5/15/07, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm looking at Python/marshal.c and there are a lot of places that > > don't support sequences that are larger than would fit into size(int). > > I looked for marshal referenced in the PEP and didn't find anything. > > Was this an oversig

Re: [Python-Dev] marshal and ssize_t (PEP 353)

2007-05-15 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Ah, forgot to mention that a browsable version of the branch is at http://svn.python.org/view/python/branches/ssize_t/?rev=42382 Unfortunately, you cannot check out that URL. OTOH, you can checkout "peg revisions" (I have no clue what a peg is) http://svn.python.org/projects/python/branches/[EMA

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-15 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> If we anticipate users rather than programmers to register (as if so, it > would be nice to collect that info to formulate sensible responses), then > questions like > The orb that shines in the sky during the day. This question I could not answer, because I don't know what an orb is (it'

Re: [Python-Dev] marshal and ssize_t (PEP 353)

2007-05-15 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I'm looking at Python/marshal.c and there are a lot of places that > don't support sequences that are larger than would fit into size(int). > I looked for marshal referenced in the PEP and didn't find anything. > Was this an oversight or intentional? These changes were only made after merging th

[Python-Dev] marshal and ssize_t (PEP 353)

2007-05-15 Thread Neal Norwitz
Martin, I'm looking at Python/marshal.c and there are a lot of places that don't support sequences that are larger than would fit into size(int). I looked for marshal referenced in the PEP and didn't find anything. Was this an oversight or intentional? To give you some examples of what I mean fr

Re: [Python-Dev] updated for gdbinit

2007-05-15 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:26:55 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Christian> I tried to use gdbinit today and found that the "fragile" >Christian> pystacks macro didn't work anymore. I don't know gdb very >Christian> well, but this turned out to work a bit more reliably: > >... > >Thank

Re: [Python-Dev] updated for gdbinit

2007-05-15 Thread skip
Christian> I tried to use gdbinit today and found that the "fragile" Christian> pystacks macro didn't work anymore. I don't know gdb very Christian> well, but this turned out to work a bit more reliably: ... Thanks. I'll give it a try and check it in if it checks out. Skip _

[Python-Dev] updated for gdbinit

2007-05-15 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I tried to use gdbinit today and found that the "fragile" pystacks macro didn't work anymore. I don't know gdb very well, but this turned out to work a bit more reliably: # print the entire Python call stack define pystack set $last=0 while $sp != $last if $pc > PyEval_EvalFra

Re: [Python-Dev] Draft PEP: Maintenance of Python Releases

2007-05-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 15, 2007, at 12:55 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > I don't think I can be more plain than that: yes, I do not take > security > seriously enough to release security fixes for old Python versions > more > than once a year. As a user, it's easy

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-15 Thread skip
>> On Mon, May 14, 2007, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: >>> Skip(?): In the meantime (thinking out loud here), would it be possible to keep search engines from seeing a submission or an edit until a trusted person has had a chance to approve it? >>> It would be pos

Re: [Python-Dev] Draft PEP: Maintenance of Python Releases

2007-05-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 14, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> Still, I'm in agreement with you that the repository holds the >> security >> patches and that the tarballs are a convenience. They are an >> important >> convenience though, so I would say t

Re: [Python-Dev] Functools Defaults (was Python-ideas parameter omit)

2007-05-15 Thread Nick Coghlan
Aaron Brady wrote: > It might be useful in cases where you want the calling signature to look > alike for a group of dispatched functions and the added overhead the > decorator adds isn't a problem. But you probably wouldn't want that > overhead all the time, so having it as an optional decorator

[Python-Dev] Functools Defaults (was Python-ideas parameter omit)

2007-05-15 Thread Aaron Brady
> -Original Message- > From: Steven Bethard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:54 AM > > On 5/15/07, Aaron Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You might be able to get away without a PEP, but you'll definitely > need to post an implementation patch to the bug trac

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-15 Thread Georg Brandl
Terry Reedy schrieb: > "Andrew McNamara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | I'm reluctant to mention the name of one particular tool I'm aware > | of, but as well as the above, it also has OCR to defeat CAPTCHA, and > > How about asking a Python specific question, w