Benjamin Peterson wrote:
2012/1/26 Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us:
PEP: XXX
Congratulations, you are now PEP 409.
Thanks, Benjamin!
So, how do I make changes to it?
~Ethan~
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It looks like agreement is forming around the
raise ... from None
method. It has been mentioned more than once that having the context
Am 29.01.2012 08:42, schrieb Ethan Furman:
Benjamin Peterson wrote:
2012/1/26 Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us:
PEP: XXX
Congratulations, you are now PEP 409.
Thanks, Benjamin!
So, how do I make changes to it?
Please send PEP updates to the PEP editors at p...@python.org.
Georg
Hi,
Now that issue 13703 has been largely settled,
I want to propose my new dictionary implementation again.
It is a little more polished than before.
https://bitbucket.org/markshannon/hotpy_new_dict
Object-oriented benchmarks use considerably less memory and are
sometimes faster (by a small
Hi,
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:31:48 +
Mark Shannon m...@hotpy.org wrote:
Now that issue 13703 has been largely settled,
I want to propose my new dictionary implementation again.
It is a little more polished than before.
https://bitbucket.org/markshannon/hotpy_new_dict
I briefly took a
2012/1/29 Mark Shannon m...@hotpy.org:
Hi,
Now that issue 13703 has been largely settled,
I want to propose my new dictionary implementation again.
It is a little more polished than before.
If you're serious about changing the dictionary implementation, I
think you should write a PEP. It
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:56:11 -0500
Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2012/1/29 Mark Shannon m...@hotpy.org:
Hi,
Now that issue 13703 has been largely settled,
I want to propose my new dictionary implementation again.
It is a little more polished than before.
If you're
2012/1/29 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:56:11 -0500
Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2012/1/29 Mark Shannon m...@hotpy.org:
Hi,
Now that issue 13703 has been largely settled,
I want to propose my new dictionary implementation again.
It is a
Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:31:48 +
Mark Shannon m...@hotpy.org wrote:
Now that issue 13703 has been largely settled,
I want to propose my new dictionary implementation again.
It is a little more polished than before.
https://bitbucket.org/markshannon/hotpy_new_dict
I have a newbie question about CPython.
Looking at the C code I noted that for example in tupleobject.c there is
only one include
#include Python.h
Python.h actually includes everything as far as I can I see so:
- it's very hard with a not-enough smart editor to find out where the
not-locally
Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:56:11 -0500
Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2012/1/29 Mark Shannon m...@hotpy.org:
Hi,
Now that issue 13703 has been largely settled,
I want to propose my new dictionary implementation again.
It is a little more polished than before.
Hello.
We are sorry but we cannot help you. This mailing list is to work on
developing Python (adding new features to Python itself and fixing bugs);
if you're having problems learning, understanding or using Python, please
find another forum. Probably python-list/comp.lang.python mailing
On 01/29/2012 05:22 PM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
Hello.
We are sorry but we cannot help you. This mailing list is to work on
developing Python (adding new features to Python itself and fixing bugs);
if you're having problems learning, understanding or using Python, please
find another forum.
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 05:59:51PM +, Andrea Crotti wrote:
On 01/29/2012 05:22 PM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
Hello.
We are sorry but we cannot help you. This mailing list is to work on
developing Python (adding new features to Python itself and fixing bugs);
if you're having problems
On 29 January 2012 18:10, C. Titus Brown c...@msu.edu wrote:
python-dev isn't that inappropriate, IMO, but probably the best place to
go with this discussion is python-ideas. Could you repost over there?
I agree that python-dev isn't particularly appropriate, python-list is
probably your best
On 01/29/2012 06:34 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
On 29 January 2012 18:10, C. Titus Brownc...@msu.edu wrote:
python-dev isn't that inappropriate, IMO, but probably the best place to
go with this discussion is python-ideas. Could you repost over there?
I agree that python-dev isn't particularly
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 17:34, Andrea Crotti andrea.crott...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a newbie question about CPython.
Looking at the C code I noted that for example in tupleobject.c there is
only one include
#include Python.h
Python.h actually includes everything as far as I can I see so:
-
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:39 AM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
In fact, none of the strategies fixes all issues with hash collisions;
even the hash-randomization solutions only deal with string keys, and
don't consider collisions on non-string keys.
The hash-randomization approach also works
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2012/1/27 Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info:
Benjamin Peterson wrote:
Hello everyone,
In effort to get a fix out before Perl 6 goes mainstream, Barry and I
have decided to pronounce on what we want for our stable
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Alex alex.gay...@gmail.com wrote:
Eli Bendersky eliben at gmail.com writes:
Hello,
Following an earlier discussion on python-ideas [1], we would like to
propose the following PEP for review. Discussion is welcome. The PEP
can also be viewed in HTML form at
On 01/29/2012 11:31 AM, Mark Shannon wrote:
It passes all the tests.
(I had to change a couple that relied on dict repr() ordering)
Hi Mark,
I've cloned the repo, build it the I've tried with ./python -m test. I
got some errors:
First in general:
340 tests OK.
2 tests failed:
test_dis
On 29 January 2012 21:39, Gregory P. Smith g...@krypto.org wrote:
An example of this working: ipaddr is ready to go in. It got the
eyeballs and API modifications while still a pypi library as a result
of the discussion around the time it was originally suggested as being
added. I or any
Now that issue 13703 has been largely settled,
I want to propose my new dictionary implementation again.
It is a little more polished than before.
Please clarify the status of that code: are you actually proposing
6a21f3b35e20 for inclusion into Python as-is? If so, please post it
as a patch
francis wrote:
On 01/29/2012 11:31 AM, Mark Shannon wrote:
It passes all the tests.
(I had to change a couple that relied on dict repr() ordering)
Hi Mark,
I've cloned the repo, build it the I've tried with ./python -m test. I
got some errors:
First in general:
340 tests OK.
2 tests
On Jan 28, 2012, at 07:29 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Finally, if you really want to put warnings in whenever an
experimental module is being used, make it a silent warning, like
SilentDeprecationWarning. That allows people to request more strict
warnings without unduly alarming the users of an
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
Now that issue 13703 has been largely settled,
I want to propose my new dictionary implementation again.
It is a little more polished than before.
Please clarify the status of that code: are you actually proposing
6a21f3b35e20 for inclusion into Python as-is? If so,
I... I think I might have already done this, inadvertently. I
needed an x64 VS2010 debug build of Subversion/APR*/Python a few
weeks ago -- forgetting the fact that we're still on VS2008.
There is a lot of duplication of work going on here: at least four
people have done the same.
Please clarify the status of that code: are you actually proposing
6a21f3b35e20 for inclusion into Python as-is? If so, please post it
as a patch to the tracker, as it will need to be reviewed (possibly
with requests for further changes).
I thought it already was a patch. What do I need to
Matt Joiner wrote:
Mark, Good luck with getting this in, I'm also hopeful about coroutines,
maybe after pushing your dict optimization your coroutine implementation
will get more consideration.
Shush, don't say the C word or you'll put people off ;)
I'm actually not that fussed about the
Mark Shannon wrote:
Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:56:11 -0500
Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2012/1/29 Mark Shannon m...@hotpy.org:
Hi,
Now that issue 13703 has been largely settled,
I want to propose my new dictionary implementation again.
It is a little more
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
Nothing beats people beating on it heavily for years in production code to
shake things out. I often think a generic answer to did I get the API right
could be no, but it's okay :)
Heh, my answer to complaints about the
import threading
s = threading.Semaphore(0.5)
But why would you want to pass a float? It seems like API abuse to me.
If something should be changed, Semaphore(arg) should raise a
TypeError if arg is not an integer.
Victor
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I think an advocacy of 3rd party modules would start with modules such as
ipaddr, requests, regex. Linking directly to them from the python core
documentation, while requesting they hold a successful moratorium in order
to be included in a later standard module release.
On Jan 30, 2012 10:47 AM,
I still have gdb 6.somthing,
would you mail me the full output please,
so I can see what the problem is.
It's done, let me know if you need more output.
Cheers,
francis
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On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
But why would you want to pass a float? It seems like API abuse to me.
Agreed. Anything else seems meaningless.
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Latest addition for PEP 409 has been sent. Text follows:
Language Details
Currently, __context__ and __cause__ start out as None, and then get set
as exceptions occur.
To support 'from None', __context__ will stay as it is, but __cause__
will start out as False, and will
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
raise ... from ... is not disallowed outside a try block, but this
behavior is not guaranteed to remain.
--
Should that last disclaimer be there? Should it
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