Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] distlib updated with resources API

2012-09-27 Thread Nick Coghlan 
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Tarek Ziadé  wrote:
> On 9/28/12 12:55 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>>>
>>> Last but not least, distlib is the plan forward endorsed by python-dev,
>>
>> Is it? I haven't seen a PEP or an official decision about that. Just
>> because
>> someone proposed it on a mailing-list doesn't mean it is "endorsed by
>> python-dev".
>
>
> We discussed about this with Vinay, Nick and al on python-dev, based on
> Nick's document
> that describes what 'distlib' is.
>
> The document has changed since then,
> http://python-notes.boredomandlaziness.org/en/latest/pep_ideas/core_packaging_api.html

Yeah, don't read too much into the current state of that - it will
eventually become a proposal for a standardised *in-memory* data
structure to better support metadata interoperability between
packaging tools, but it isn't there yet (although scrubbing every
reference to "JSON file" and replacing it with "API data structure"
would get you close - think of the overall idea as "like dictConfig,
but for distribution metadata rather than logging configurations". We
need something like that in order to allow import hooks to correctly
supply distribution metadata).

The original email thread from the removal of packaging from 3.3 is
probably a better point of reference, with a concrete "distlib" PEP
still on the todo list.

Cheers,
Nick.

-- 
Nick Coghlan   |   ncogh...@gmail.com   |   Brisbane, Australia
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Re: [Python-Dev] Python Bug Day in October

2012-09-27 Thread R. David Murray 
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:30:49 -0400, mer...@netwok.org wrote:
> The Montreal-Python user group would like to host a bug day on October
> 27 (to be confirmed) at a partner university in Montreal.  It would be
> cool to do a bug day on IRC like we used to (and in other physical
> locations if people want to!) to get new contributors and close bugs.
> What do you think?

All that is needed for an IRC bug day to happen is for someone to
coordinate and advertise it.  It sounds like you and Brian between you
have that covered.  Of course, it does help to have committers on hand.
I think I for one will probably be available during the day (EST) on
the 27th.

--David
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Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] distlib updated with resources API

2012-09-27 Thread Tarek Ziadé 

On 9/28/12 12:55 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:

Last but not least, distlib is the plan forward endorsed by python-dev,

Is it? I haven't seen a PEP or an official decision about that. Just because
someone proposed it on a mailing-list doesn't mean it is "endorsed by
python-dev".


We discussed about this with Vinay, Nick and al on python-dev, based on 
Nick's document

that describes what 'distlib' is.

The document has changed since then, 
http://python-notes.boredomandlaziness.org/en/latest/pep_ideas/core_packaging_api.html


But the idea was to create a subset of 4 or 5 modules that implement the 
various PEPs.


Vinay started to work on this and made progress.

When I said "endorsed", I mean that most of the people in python-dev 
that care about packaging agreed or did not disagree.


Now, if you disagree please say it. Or if you need an official decision, 
we need to first declare who is the current packaging BDFL maybe ?


And since you seem interested in the topic maybe you could take that role ?

Cheers
Tarek

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Re: [Python-Dev] Python Bug Day in October

2012-09-27 Thread Brian Curtin 
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Éric Araujo  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The Montreal-Python user group would like to host a bug day on October
> 27 (to be confirmed) at a partner university in Montreal.  It would be
> cool to do a bug day on IRC like we used to (and in other physical
> locations if people want to!) to get new contributors and close bugs.
> What do you think?

Sounds good to me, and I'll see if I can get some interest in having a
meetup in Chicago. Would be nice to try and get all of the
implementations to join in.

Whenever a final date is picked out, I'll write something up and
publicize it on the PSF blog, dev blog, pythonsprints.com, etc.
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[Python-Dev] Python Bug Day in October

2012-09-27 Thread Éric Araujo 
Hi all,

The Montreal-Python user group would like to host a bug day on October
27 (to be confirmed) at a partner university in Montreal.  It would be
cool to do a bug day on IRC like we used to (and in other physical
locations if people want to!) to get new contributors and close bugs.
What do you think?

Cheers
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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Add a few entries to whatsnew/3.3.rst.

2012-09-27 Thread Stefan Behnel 
Ezio Melotti, 26.09.2012 18:30:
> """
> The problem is that the standard allows some charref to end without a
> ';', but not all of them.
> 
> So both "Éric" and Éric" will be parsed as "Éric", but
> only "αcentauri" will result in "αcentauri" -- "&alphacentauri"
> will be returned unchanged.
> """
> 
> To preserve this I included them both, in the same way they are listed
> at .

Interesting. Seems to be missing on dailywtf, though. Maybe just an oversight.

Stefan


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