Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Wes Turner
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Wes Turner wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: > >> >> Heh, one of my thoughts on deploying the bug tracker into production was >> via a container, especially since we have multiple instances of it. I got >> side tracked on getting th

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Wes Turner
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: > > Heh, one of my thoughts on deploying the bug tracker into production was > via a container, especially since we have multiple instances of it. I got > side tracked on getting the rest of the infrastructure readier for a web > application an

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Wes Turner
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: > > > One potential solution is Phabricator (http://phabricator.org) which is a > gerrit like tool except it also works with Mercurial. It is a fully open > source platform though it works on a “patch” bases rather than a pull > request basis.

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker test instances (was: My thinking about the development process)

2014-12-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 7 December 2014 at 02:11, R. David Murray wrote: > For the tracker, being unable to run a test instance on Windows would > likely not be a severe limitation. Given how few Windows people we get > making contributions to CPython, I'd really rather encourage them to > work there, rather than on

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/6/2014 10:26 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 7 December 2014 at 01:07, Donald Stufft wrote: A likely solution is to use a pre-merge test runner for the systems that we can isolate which will give a decent indication if the tests are going to pass across the entire supported matrix or not and t

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker test instances (was: My thinking about the development process)

2014-12-06 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 15:21:46 +, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Sat Dec 06 2014 at 10:07:50 AM Donald Stufft wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > >> On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 8:31:27 PM R. David Murray > >> wrote: > >>> That's probably the biggest issue with *anyone* contri

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Donald Stufft
> On Dec 6, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On 7 December 2014 at 01:07, Donald Stufft wrote: >> A likely solution is to use a pre-merge test runner for the systems that we >> can isolate which will give a decent indication if the tests are going to >> pass across the entire supporte

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat Dec 06 2014 at 10:30:54 AM Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 7 December 2014 at 00:11, Brett Cannon wrote: > > On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 8:31:27 PM R. David Murray > > wrote: > >> > >> That's probably the biggest issue with *anyone* contributing to tracker > >> maintenance, and if we could solve that

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat Dec 06 2014 at 10:07:50 AM Donald Stufft wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 8:31:27 PM R. David Murray > wrote: > >> On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:17:35 -0700, Eric Snow < >> ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 7 December 2014 at 00:11, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 8:31:27 PM R. David Murray > wrote: >> >> That's probably the biggest issue with *anyone* contributing to tracker >> maintenance, and if we could solve that, I think we could get more >> people interested in helping maintain

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 7 December 2014 at 01:07, Donald Stufft wrote: > A likely solution is to use a pre-merge test runner for the systems that we > can isolate which will give a decent indication if the tests are going to > pass across the entire supported matrix or not and then continue to use the > current post-m

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Donald Stufft
> On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 8:31:27 PM R. David Murray > wrote: > On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:17:35 -0700, Eric Snow > wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Brett Cannon > <

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 5:17:35 PM Eric Snow wrote: > Very nice, Brett. > Thanks! > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > And we can't forget the people who help keep all of this running as well. > > There are those that manage the SSH keys, the issue tracker, the review > >

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat Dec 06 2014 at 2:53:43 AM Terry Reedy wrote: > On 12/5/2014 3:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > 1. Contributor clones a repository from hg.python.org < > http://hg.python.org> > > 2. Contributor makes desired changes > > 3. Contributor generates a patch > > 4. Contributor creates account on

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 8:31:27 PM R. David Murray wrote: > On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:17:35 -0700, Eric Snow > wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > We don't exactly have a ton of people > > > constantly going "I'm so bored because everything for Python's > development

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Donald Stufft
> On Dec 6, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 3:24:38 PM Donald Stufft > wrote: > >> On Dec 5, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Brett Cannon > > wrote: >> > > This looks like a pretty good write up, seems to pretty fairl

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 3:24:38 PM Donald Stufft wrote: > > On Dec 5, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > This looks like a pretty good write up, seems to pretty fairly evaluate > the various sides and the various concerns. > Thanks! It seems like I have gotten the point across that I

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

2014-12-06 Thread Brett Cannon
Thanks for the feedback. I'll update the doc probably on Friday. On Sat Dec 06 2014 at 12:41:54 AM Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 6 December 2014 at 14:40, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On 6 December 2014 at 10:44, Benjamin Peterson > wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 18:16, Donald Stufft wrote: > >>> D