Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Augie Fackler writes: > There is no sacrifice [for git users moving to Mercurial] other > than familiarity--and because Mercurial indeed has as simpler UI, > closing the familiarity gap from Git to Mercurial is much easier > than the other way around. AFAIK it is still much easier to do the k

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Mike Miller
Mercurial is easier to use (for cases outside linux kernel development). It's too bad the gravity of GitHub tends to override that. -Mike On 09/15/2015 05:20 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: Looks like it's time I spun up my own hg, rather than using the 3.1.2 that ships with Debian. > sudo pip i

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Sep 16 2015, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Augie Fackler wrote: >>> but git is still better at it: ``git add -p`` >>> allows me to review and edit patches before commit while ``hg record`` >>> commits immediately. >> >> FWIW, I totally *get* wanting a staging area. T

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Augie Fackler
Chris Angelico gmail.com> writes: > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Augie Fackler durin42.com> wrote: > >> but git is still better at it: ``git add -p`` > >> allows me to review and edit patches before commit while ``hg record`` > >> commits immediately. > > > > FWIW, I totally *get* wanting

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 16 Sep 2015 7:43 am, "Larry Hastings" wrote: > > > I don't follow. Because you're an advocate of Python switching to git and GitHub, we should have a git tutorial committed as a Python Enhancement Proposal? > > I'm not attempting to stir up a conversation about git vs hg. I only question the

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Augie Fackler wrote: >> but git is still better at it: ``git add -p`` >> allows me to review and edit patches before commit while ``hg record`` >> commits immediately. > > FWIW, I totally *get* wanting a staging area. That said, other than the > staging area, recor

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:41:54PM +0100, Larry Hastings wrote: > > I don't follow. Because you're an advocate of Python switching to > git and GitHub, we should have a git tutorial committed as a Python > Enhancement Proposal? > > I'm not attempting to stir up a conversation about git vs hg.

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Larry Hastings
I don't follow. Because you're an advocate of Python switching to git and GitHub, we should have a git tutorial committed as a Python Enhancement Proposal? I'm not attempting to stir up a conversation about git vs hg. I only question the idea that a git tutorial should be a PEP, when it ha

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Augie Fackler
Oleg Broytman phdru.name> writes: > > Hi! Hi! I work on Mercurial. I’ve got some inline responses, but I want to summarize and put this in context for those without much energy for the topic. There are a lot of reasons to prefer one tool over another. Common ones are familiarity, simplicity, a

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 20:32:33 +0200, Georg Brandl wrote: > On 09/15/2015 08:22 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > For one, because *I* have been a (moderate) advocate for switching to git > > and > > GitHub. > > Fair enough. Still strange to read this PEP with the explicit caveat of > "The author of

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 08:32:33PM +0200, Georg Brandl wrote: > Fair enough. Still strange to read this PEP with the explicit caveat of > "The author of the PEP doesn't currently plan to write a Process PEP on > migration Python development from Mercurial to git." I am not a member of the core

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Georg Brandl
Fair enough. Still strange to read this PEP with the explicit caveat of "The author of the PEP doesn't currently plan to write a Process PEP on migration Python development from Mercurial to git." Georg On 09/15/2015 08:22 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > For one, because *I* have been a (moderate)

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Guido van Rossum
For one, because *I* have been a (moderate) advocate for switching to git and GitHub. On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: > On 09/15/2015 08:02 PM, Oleg Broytman wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 09:46:55AM -0700, Benjamin Peterson < > benja...@python.org> wrote: > >> This loo

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Georg Brandl
On 09/15/2015 08:02 PM, Oleg Broytman wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 09:46:55AM -0700, Benjamin Peterson > wrote: >> This looks like good information, but why is it a PEP? If anything, the >> devguide was probably be more appropriate. But even that's strange >> considering we don't use git at t

[Python-Dev] python windows installation inconsistent use of registry keys

2015-09-15 Thread Barry Scott
I am used to looking in HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Python\PythonCore\%(py_maj)d.%(py_min)d\InstallPath to find out where python is installed so that my installation kit can add itself to site-packages. I just found that the registry key used for 32 bit python 3.5 on windows changed to be '3.5-32', which I

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015, at 11:02, Oleg Broytman wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 09:46:55AM -0700, Benjamin Peterson > wrote: > > This looks like good information, but why is it a PEP? If anything, the > > devguide was probably be more appropriate. But even that's strange > > considering we don't

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 09:46:55AM -0700, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > This looks like good information, but why is it a PEP? If anything, the > devguide was probably be more appropriate. But even that's strange > considering we don't use git at the moment. Exactly because the core team doesn't

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Benjamin Peterson
This looks like good information, but why is it a PEP? If anything, the devguide was probably be more appropriate. But even that's strange considering we don't use git at the moment. On Sat, Sep 12, 2015, at 06:56, Oleg Broytman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 03:54:51PM +0200, Oleg Broytman > w

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-15 Thread Oleg Broytman
Hello! On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 03:54:51PM +0200, Oleg Broytman wrote: > Title: Collecting information about git The PEP is assigned number 103: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0103/ I added a section "Branching models". Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmanhttp://phdru.name/

Re: [Python-Dev] peps: Move 13 -> 103

2015-09-15 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:17:00PM +0300, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > On 15.09.15 04:21, barry.warsaw wrote: > >https://hg.python.org/peps/rev/e275c4cd4b44 > >changeset: 6059:e275c4cd4b44 > >user:Barry Warsaw > >date:Mon Sep 14 21:21:40 2015 -0400 > >summary: > > Move 13 -> 103

Re: [Python-Dev] peps: Move 13 -> 103

2015-09-15 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
On 15.09.15 04:21, barry.warsaw wrote: https://hg.python.org/peps/rev/e275c4cd4b44 changeset: 6059:e275c4cd4b44 user:Barry Warsaw date:Mon Sep 14 21:21:40 2015 -0400 summary: Move 13 -> 103 files: pep-0103.rst | 2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)