Re: [Python-Dev] I hope this won't be my last comment here ~ yet it may well be...

2016-04-21 Thread Chris Barker
I'm really confused -- you had a handful of very positive responses to your offer to help with Python on Windows. Then a couple off the cuff remarks (at least one of which was serious) about what is often known as "the bus factor": But I think you may want to take into account the history here.

Re: [Python-Dev] obmalloc mmap/munmap thrashing

2016-04-21 Thread Tim Peters
You may be interested in this seemingly related bug report: http://bugs.python.org/issue26601 [Neil Schemenauer ] > I was running Python 2.4.11 under strace and I noticed some odd > looking system calls: > > mmap(NULL, 262144, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,

Re: [Python-Dev] obmalloc mmap/munmap thrashing

2016-04-21 Thread Alexander Walters
...is that a typo for 2.7.11? On 4/21/2016 17:44, Neil Schemenauer wrote: I was running Python 2.4.11 under strace and I noticed some odd looking system calls: mmap(NULL, 262144, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f9848681000 munmap(0x7f9848681000, 262144) =

[Python-Dev] obmalloc mmap/munmap thrashing

2016-04-21 Thread Neil Schemenauer
I was running Python 2.4.11 under strace and I noticed some odd looking system calls: mmap(NULL, 262144, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f9848681000 munmap(0x7f9848681000, 262144) = 0 mmap(NULL, 262144, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0)

Re: [Python-Dev] Pathlib enhancements - acceptable inputs and outputs for __fspath__ and os.fspath()

2016-04-21 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 20 April 2016 at 13:16, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > It's people who live in monolingual mono-encoding environments who > will be using bytes successfully, and be resistent to costly changes > that don't make their lives better. But the bytes vs. text cost is > inherent

Re: [Python-Dev] When the infamous Bier trunk hits ... where is our Python backup?

2016-04-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 21, 2016, at 10:43 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >I still have no clue what you're talking about. Every project has a >leader. If Guido dies, goes insane [1], or gets bored with the Python >project, someone else can and will take over. Fortunately, the Python Secret Underground (PSU) which

Re: [Python-Dev] Pathlib enhancements - acceptable inputs and outputs for __fspath__ and os.fspath()

2016-04-21 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 20 April 2016 at 13:16, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > What's left is DirEntry (and perhaps other producers of byte-oriented > objects in os and os.path). If they're currently using DirEntry, > they're currently accessing .path. Surely bytes users can continue > doing

Re: [Python-Dev] When the infamous Bier trunk hits ... where is our Python backup?

2016-04-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Burkhard Meier wrote: > Don't be afraid. > > This is just CEO talk. > > Let's imagine Python without a leader. > > All commercial companies...well ... are we free? > I still have no clue what you're talking about. Every project has a

Re: [Python-Dev] I hope this won't be my last comment here ~ yet it may well be...

2016-04-21 Thread Brian Curtin
On Thursday, April 21, 2016, Burkhard Meier wrote: > Please do allow me to share my humble experiences of being a software > professional on a Windows platform. > > Almost 20 years. > > You know what; when I tried out 'sugar Linux' or Peppermint,,,the "admin' > dude

[Python-Dev] I hope this won't be my last comment here ~ yet it may well be...

2016-04-21 Thread Burkhard Meier
Please do allow me to share my humble experiences of being a software professional on a Windows platform. Almost 20 years. You know what; when I tried out 'sugar Linux' or Peppermint,,,the "admin' dude kicked me out 5 times in one sole eve, Maybe this is just *me*.. You know what: I did have

Re: [Python-Dev] When the infamous Bier trunk hits ... where is our Python backup?

2016-04-21 Thread Burkhard Meier
Don't be afraid. This is just CEO talk. Let's imagine Python without a leader. All commercial companies...well ... are we free? Burkhard On Thursday, April 21, 2016, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > O Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 04:00:29AM -0700, Burkhard Meier wrote: > > Well, > >

Re: [Python-Dev] When the infamous Bier trunk hits ... where is our Python backup?

2016-04-21 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 04:00:29AM -0700, Burkhard Meier wrote: > Well, > > Just a thought. I'm afraid I have no idea what you are referring to. -- Steve ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

[Python-Dev] When the infamous Bier trunk hits ... where is our Python backup?

2016-04-21 Thread Burkhard Meier
Well, Just a thought. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com