Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

On 7/19/2017 12:15 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: > > > On 07/19/2017 05:59 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: >> Mercurial startup time is already 45.8x slower than Git whereas tested >> Mercurial runs on Python 2.7.12. Now try to sell Python 3 to Mercurial >> developers, with a startup time 2x - 3x

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.15

Is it possible to get the release notes included on the download page(s)? On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Simple. I misread "latest" for "last" and was hopeful that no new bugs > would need to be fixed between now and 2020. I will post a correction

Re: [Python-Dev] Every Release Can Be a Mini "Python 4000", Within Reason (was (name := expression) doesn't fit the narrative of PEP 20)

FWIW, this thread is about what "Python 4000" means and does not mean. Namely, Python feature deprecation and removal is not prohibited but the bar is high (as always), especially for syntax. While I appreciate the level of interest in certain under-consideration proposals, you'd be better served

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.15

Simple. I misread "latest" for "last" and was hopeful that no new bugs would need to be fixed between now and 2020. I will post a correction on Twitter now. On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Alex Walters wrote: > I've gotten some mixed signals on the status of this

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.15

I've gotten some mixed signals on the status of this release, notably from the BDFL: https://twitter.com/gvanrossum/status/991170064417153025 "Python 2.7.15 released -- the last 2.7 release!" (and a link to this thread) I was under the impression that 2.7 was being supported until 2020. If this

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 572: Assignment Expressions

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 2:14 AM, Steve Holden wrote: > On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 3:36 AM, Chris Jerdonek > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Sven R. Kunze wrote: >> > On 25.04.2018 01:19, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> >> >>

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 572: Assignment Expressions

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 3:36 AM, Chris Jerdonek wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Sven R. Kunze wrote: > > On 25.04.2018 01:19, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> > >> Sorry, gcd(diff, n) is not the "perfect name", and I will tell you that > >>

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 572: Assignment Expressions

On Tue, May 01, 2018 at 11:04:55AM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > To be fair, I don't see many people replacing "x = 1" with "for x in > [1]: pass". Even though it IS going to have the same effect. :-) Aside from the pass, that is precisely one of the current work-arounds for lack of

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 572: Assignment Expressions

Steven D'Aprano wrote: "Not sure"? Given that you listed seven ways, how much more evidence do you need to conclude that it is simply wrong to say that Python has a single way to assign a value to a name? Yes, but six of those are very specialised, and there's rarely any doubt about when it's