[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 632: Deprecate distutils module

Then, as Victor said, it will have to be bundled into Python's codebase. On 05.09.2020 11:06, Emily Bowman wrote: On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 12:37 AM Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev mailto:python-dev@python.org>> wrote: As I wrote in

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 632: Deprecate distutils module

On 9/5/2020 3:59 AM, Emily Bowman wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 3:11 PM Stefan Krah > wrote: > > > > It is not hyperbolic at all. You can get permissions for a certain set > of modules (the stdlib), but not for PyPI packages. > > Of course the upgrade is

[Python-Dev] PEP 622: Arrow for capture patterns

Hi everyone, Sorry if this was proposed already. I looked here https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0622/#alternatives-for-constant-value-pattern, search for "idea to make lookup semantics the default". I saw that a few symbols like $ and ? were proposed, and I thought that maybe the annotation

[Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.5.10 is released

On behalf of the Python development community, I'm plesed to announce the availability of Python 3.5.10. Python 3.5 is in "security fixes only" mode.  This new version only contains security fixes, not conventional bug fixes, and it is a source-only release. Important Notice: The latest

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 632: Deprecate distutils module

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 12:37 AM Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev < python-dev@python.org> wrote: > As I wrote in > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25337706/setuptools-vs-distutils-why-is-distutils-still-a-thing/40176290#40176290, > > distutils has a responsibility that setuptools as a 3rd-party

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 632: Deprecate distutils module

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 3:11 PM Stefan Krah wrote: > > > It is not hyperbolic at all. You can get permissions for a certain set > of modules (the stdlib), but not for PyPI packages. > > Of course the upgrade is not via the network, that is beside the point. > If you can update to a breaking

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 632: Deprecate distutils module

As I wrote in https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25337706/setuptools-vs-distutils-why-is-distutils-still-a-thing/40176290#40176290, distutils has a responsibility that setuptools as a 3rd-party entity cannot fulfill -- to set the core standards for addon modules structure and interface and be

[Python-Dev] Re: Deferred, coalescing, and other very recent reference counting optimization

04.09.20 13:40, Antoine Pitrou пише: > And tuple allocation uses freelists for small sizes, so I'm not even > sure how useful that optimization is. I do not know about zip(), but I measured the overhead of tuple allocation in comparison of reusing tuple in other code, and it was not so small.