[Python-Dev] Re: Python 0.9.1

2021-02-17 Thread Skip Montanaro 
> If we can get a clean copy of the original sources I think we should put them 
> up under the Python org on GitHub for posterity.

Did that earlier today:

https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/1734

Skip
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[Python-Dev] Re: Python 0.9.1

2021-02-17 Thread Brett Cannon 
If we can get a clean copy of the original sources I think we should put
them up under the Python org on GitHub for posterity.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 6:10 AM Skip Montanaro 
wrote:

> This is getting a bit more off-topic for python-dev than I'd like. I
> will make a couple comments though, then hopefully be done with this
> thread.
>
> > The original ones are here:
> > http://ftp.fi.netbsd.org/pub/misc/archive/alt.sources/volume91/Feb/
> > Look at http://ftp.fi.netbsd.org/pub/misc/archive/alt.sources/index.gz
> > for the associating subjects with file names. As far as I can tell,
> > they extract flawlessly using unshar.
>
> Thanks. Will check them out.
>
> > When I see diffs like this (your git vs. the unshar result) I tend to
> > trust unshar more:
>
> ...
>
> Well, sure. I was trying to reverse engineer the original shar files
> from Google's HTML. I was frankly fairly surprised that I got as close
> to perfection as I did. I realized that Google had mangled Guido's old
> CWI email, but didn't worry about it. I also saw the TeX macro
> mangling, but as I wasn't planning to rebuild the documentation, I
> didn't worry too much about that. I expected to need a bunch of manual
> patchwork to get back to something that would even compile.
>
> It's nice to know that in this case, "the Internet never forgets."
>
> Skip
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[Python-Dev] Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.9.2rc1 and 3.8.8rc1 are now available for testing

2021-02-17 Thread Barry Scott 
I think this fix for the limited API on Windows is not in the RC.
I could not fine the new code in the tarball.

Can it be added?

https://bugs.python.org/issue43155 

Barry


> On 17 Feb 2021, at 12:50, Łukasz Langa  wrote:
> 
> I’m happy to announce two release candidates today: Python 3.9.2rc1, and 
> Python 3.8.8rc1. Get them from:
> 
> https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-392rc1/ 
> 
> 
> https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-388rc1/ 
> 
> 
> Unless critical issues are discovered, both release candidates will become 
> their respective final versions on Monday, March 1st.
> Following that, the last full regular maintenance release of Python 3.8 is 
> planned for May 3rd 2021, after which it will shift to source releases only 
> for security bug fixes only. Maintenance releases for the 3.9 series will 
> continue at regular bi-monthly intervals, with 3.9.3 planned for early May 
> 2021.
> 
> Notable security content in today’s releases
> 
> bpo-42967 : Fix web cache poisoning 
> vulnerability by defaulting the query args separator to &, and allowing the 
> user to choose a custom separator.
> 
> bpo-42938 : Avoid static buffers when 
> computing the repr of ctypes.c_double and ctypes.c_longdouble values.
> 
> What’s new?
> 
> The Python 3.9 series contains many new features and optimizations over 3.8. 
> See the “What’s New in Python 3.9 
> ” document for more 
> information about features included in the 3.9 series. We also have a 
> detailed change log for 3.9.2rc1 
>  
> specifically.
> 
> Detailed information about all changes made in version 3.8.8rc1 specifically 
> can be found in its change log 
> .
> 
> We hope you enjoy those new releases!
> 
> Thanks to all of the many volunteers who help make Python Development and 
> these releases possible! Please consider supporting our efforts by 
> volunteering yourself or through organization contributions to the Python 
> Software Foundation.
> 
> Your friendly release team,
> Ned Deily @nad 
> Steve Dower @steve.dower 
> Łukasz Langa @ambv 
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[Python-Dev] Re: Python 0.9.1

2021-02-17 Thread Skip Montanaro 
This is getting a bit more off-topic for python-dev than I'd like. I
will make a couple comments though, then hopefully be done with this
thread.

> The original ones are here:
> http://ftp.fi.netbsd.org/pub/misc/archive/alt.sources/volume91/Feb/
> Look at http://ftp.fi.netbsd.org/pub/misc/archive/alt.sources/index.gz
> for the associating subjects with file names. As far as I can tell,
> they extract flawlessly using unshar.

Thanks. Will check them out.

> When I see diffs like this (your git vs. the unshar result) I tend to
> trust unshar more:

...

Well, sure. I was trying to reverse engineer the original shar files
from Google's HTML. I was frankly fairly surprised that I got as close
to perfection as I did. I realized that Google had mangled Guido's old
CWI email, but didn't worry about it. I also saw the TeX macro
mangling, but as I wasn't planning to rebuild the documentation, I
didn't worry too much about that. I expected to need a bunch of manual
patchwork to get back to something that would even compile.

It's nice to know that in this case, "the Internet never forgets."

Skip
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[Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.9.2rc1 and 3.8.8rc1 are now available for testing

2021-02-17 Thread Łukasz Langa 
I’m happy to announce two release candidates today: Python 3.9.2rc1, and Python 
3.8.8rc1. Get them from:

https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-392rc1/ 


https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-388rc1/ 


Unless critical issues are discovered, both release candidates will become 
their respective final versions on Monday, March 1st.
Following that, the last full regular maintenance release of Python 3.8 is 
planned for May 3rd 2021, after which it will shift to source releases only for 
security bug fixes only. Maintenance releases for the 3.9 series will continue 
at regular bi-monthly intervals, with 3.9.3 planned for early May 2021.

Notable security content in today’s releases

bpo-42967 : Fix web cache poisoning 
vulnerability by defaulting the query args separator to &, and allowing the 
user to choose a custom separator.

bpo-42938 : Avoid static buffers when 
computing the repr of ctypes.c_double and ctypes.c_longdouble values.

What’s new?

The Python 3.9 series contains many new features and optimizations over 3.8. 
See the “What’s New in Python 3.9 
” document for more information 
about features included in the 3.9 series. We also have a detailed change log 
for 3.9.2rc1 
 
specifically.

Detailed information about all changes made in version 3.8.8rc1 specifically 
can be found in its change log 
.

We hope you enjoy those new releases!

Thanks to all of the many volunteers who help make Python Development and these 
releases possible! Please consider supporting our efforts by volunteering 
yourself or through organization contributions to the Python Software 
Foundation.

Your friendly release team,
Ned Deily @nad 
Steve Dower @steve.dower 
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[Python-Dev] Re: Python 0.9.1

2021-02-17 Thread M.-A. Lemburg 



On 17.02.2021 08:00, Stefan Ring wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 7:33 AM Steven D'Aprano  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 05:49:49PM -0600, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>
>>> If someone knows how to get the original Usenet messages from what Google
>>> published, let me know.
>>
>> I don't have those, but I do have a copy of Python 0.9.1 with unmangled
>> scripts.
>>
>> $ ls -lh Python-0.9.1.tar.gz
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 steve steve 379K Nov  5  2009 Python-0.9.1.tar.gz
>>
>> I don't remember where I got it from, but it compiled on CentOS release
>> 5.11, I'm not sure if it will compile on anything newer.

You are probably looking at Andrew Dalke's experiment from 2009:

http://www.dalkescientific.com/writings/diary/archive/2009/03/27/python_0_9_1p1.html

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[Python-Dev] Re: Python 0.9.1

2021-02-17 Thread Stefan Ring 
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 7:33 AM Steven D'Aprano  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 05:49:49PM -0600, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>
> > If someone knows how to get the original Usenet messages from what Google
> > published, let me know.
>
> I don't have those, but I do have a copy of Python 0.9.1 with unmangled
> scripts.
>
> $ ls -lh Python-0.9.1.tar.gz
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 steve steve 379K Nov  5  2009 Python-0.9.1.tar.gz
>
> I don't remember where I got it from, but it compiled on CentOS release
> 5.11, I'm not sure if it will compile on anything newer.

I guess you got it from here: https://www.python.org/download/releases/early/

Compared to the original, this one has a lot of whitespace changes.
Mostly tabs -> spaces.
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