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Feedback on meta-tracker open issues, as well as new RFEs and
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The consistency argument leads to the PEP 8 names. The removal
of redundant names is not made in the name of consistency, but of
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This one is easily solved by making assertRaises return the
exception it caught.
That breaks one simple feature of the unittest API: that all the
test methods will either raise
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How is returning None a feature?
A test method having exactly one meaning is a feature. If it's
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You're proposing to give assertRaises a *new* meaning, without
changing its name to assertRaisesAndReturnExceptionIfRaises.
This might be misunderstood, so I'll make it clearer.
The name assert raises has a strong (and, per Guido, deliberate)
association
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The result I'm trying to avoid by this is that of having the
externally visible behaviour of functions drift from the promise
made by their names. Either rename the function
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Right, so I'm putting up a separate PEP just for the renaming.
Should be arriving on this list soon.
I would like to work with you or someone else
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The `unittest` module will gain the following attribute, to set the
default metaclass for classes in the module and thus make all classes
in the module part of the new-style
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Line 94-95 in unittest.py (trunk):
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Hmm, you're right; I see that in Python 2.5.2
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Removal of ``assert*`` names
There is no overwhelming consensus on whether to remove the
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What makes that happen in the case where a class declares no
superclass? Is there an invisible enforced __metaclass__ = type
for every module? Where can I read about this change?
The magic is actually in 2.x, not in 3.0. In 2.x
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That measured only usage of unittest *within the Python standard
library*. Is that the only body
names in the `unittest` module
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assert_lt
assert_gt
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The problem is, that makes it quite inconsistent with other not
uses (such as assert_not_equal, assert_not_in, etc.) I would
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and so on; i.e. that 'assert_is_not' breaks the obvious pattern
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Use new-style classes throughout
The following classes will inherit explicitly from the built-in
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That would better be written (preferring PEP 8 names)
fail_unless_equal.
Which is still a double negative (fail and unless are both
negative words).
Hmm, not to this native-English
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