Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.

2015-05-29 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Gregory P. Smith g...@krypto.org wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:24 AM Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 May 2015 11:01 am, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: Why not continue to enhance Python 3 instead of wasting our time with

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.

2015-05-29 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Ian Cordasco graffatcolmin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Gregory P. Smith g...@krypto.org wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:24 AM Nick Coghlan ncogh

Re: [Python-Dev] Keeping competitive with Go (was Re: Computed Goto dispatch for Python 2)

2015-05-28 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Paul Sokolovsky pmis...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, On Thu, 28 May 2015 23:48:59 +0200 Matthias Klose d...@ubuntu.com wrote: [] And the very same place where you are working is investing in getting shared libraries working for Go. Single binaries may be

Re: [Python-Dev] Free lists

2015-05-09 Thread Ian Cordasco
On May 9, 2015 5:07 PM, Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com wrote: On 09.05.15 22:51, Larry Hastings wrote: On 05/09/2015 12:01 PM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: Here is a statistic for most called PyObject_INIT or PyObject_INIT_VAR for types (collected during running Python tests on 32-bit

Re: [Python-Dev] typeshed for 3rd party packages

2015-04-22 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Skip Montanaro skip.montan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: For Requests, it looks like it may be better not to have stubs at all. Can you expand on this? Why would Requests be any different

Re: [Python-Dev] typeshed for 3rd party packages

2015-04-22 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Skip Montanaro skip.montan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Ian Cordasco graffatcolmin...@gmail.com wrote: On a separate thread Cory provided an example of what the hints would look like for *part* of one function in the requests

Re: [Python-Dev] Type hints -- a mediocre programmer's reaction

2015-04-20 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Harry Percival harry.perci...@gmail.com wrote: @Lukasz: Of course you're right, ugly is a matter of perspective, and I'm sure I could grow to love them, and they might evolve into a more polished direction they start to read more transparently after a

Re: [Python-Dev] Aprender Pythton

2015-04-14 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Andrew Svetlov andrew.svet...@gmail.com wrote: Python-dev is for development OF Python, not for development WITH Python or Python LEARNING, BTW. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Raúl Cumplido raulcumpl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew, Is someone asking

Re: [Python-Dev] Prefixes and namespaces

2015-02-21 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com wrote: /* Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those! */ There are two ways to avoid name conflicts: prefixes and namespaces. Programming languages that lacks namespaces (such as C) need to use

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: str(IntEnum)

2015-02-20 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Florian Bruhin m...@the-compiler.org wrote: * Demian Brecht demianbre...@gmail.com [2015-02-20 10:24:53 -0800]: These and other implementations return a string representation of the instance’s value, not a string representation of the object itself. Whereas

Re: [Python-Dev] [PyPI] Why are some packages on pypi.python.org/simple, but have no page?

2015-01-18 Thread Ian Cordasco
Taking one of your examples: https://pypi.python.org/simple/acid/ 404s (I didn't bother checkin the other three). So there are links on /simple but no content for them. So I think your question is better asked, why are there links on /simple that lead to 404s. On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:08 AM,

Re: [Python-Dev] Overriding stdlib http package

2015-01-14 Thread Ian Cordasco
I think this belongs on python-list, not python-dev. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Demian Brecht demianbre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As part of the work I'm doing on httplib3 (now that I've actually gotten a bit of time), one of the things I'm trying to get done is injection of

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.x and 3.x use survey, 2014 edition

2014-12-10 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Bruno Cauet brunoca...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Last year a survey was conducted on python 2 and 3 usage. Here is the 2014 edition, slightly updated (from 9 to 11 questions). It should not

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-05 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Dec 5, 2014 4:18 PM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice, Brett. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Brett Cannon bcan...@gmail.com wrote: And we can't forget the people who help keep all of this running as well. There are those that manage the SSH keys, the issue

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-11-30 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:23:08 +1100 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, GitHub is proprietary. But all of your actual code is stored in git, which is free, and it's easy to push that to a new host somewhere

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-11-30 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Nov 30, 2014 11:09 AM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: On Nov 30, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: On Nov 30, 2014, at 09:54 AM, Ian Cordasco wrote: - Migrating data from GitHub is easy. There are free-as-in-freedom tools to do it and the only cost

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-11-30 Thread Ian Cordasco
Can this discussion be split off into a separate discussion. It's tangential to the PEP and clearly not actively progressing so it doesn't seem productive. I don't care where it's taken, but I don't think this belongs here. Speculation on the actions of the msysgit project are not fair talk for

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding numbering to PEP 20, the Zen of Python

2014-09-18 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Ben Hoyt benh...@gmail.com wrote: I was emailing someone today about implementing something (for PEP 471, as it happens) and wanted to link to the Zen of Python [1] and note a particular clause (in this case If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad

Re: [Python-Dev] pip enhancement

2014-08-27 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 August 2014 13:58, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: At least, pip should have the ability to alert the user to potential updates, pip update could list which packages need updating, and offer to perform the

Re: [Python-Dev] https:bugs.python.org -- Untrusted Connection (Firefox)

2014-08-18 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: It uses a CACert certificate, which your system probably doesn't trust. On Mon, Aug 18, 2014, at 13:12, Terry Reedy wrote: Firefox does not want to connect to https:bugs.python.org. Plain bugs.python.org works fine.

[Python-Dev] Fwd: PEP 467: Minor API improvements for bytes bytearray

2014-08-17 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Aug 17, 2014 12:17 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Raymond Hettinger raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:41 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: If I see bytearray(10) there is nothing there that suggests this creates an

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 467: Minor API improvements for bytes bytearray

2014-08-17 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote: On 08/17/2014 04:08 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: I'm fine with postponing the deprecation elements indefinitely (or just deprecating bytes(int) and leaving bytearray(int) alone). +1 on both pieces. Perhaps postpone the

Re: [Python-Dev] Multiline with statement line continuation

2014-08-12 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:28:14AM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 12 Aug 2014 09:09, Allen Li cyberdup...@gmail.com wrote: This is a problem I sometimes run into when working with a lot of files simultaneously,

Re: [Python-Dev] pip: cdecimal an externally hosted file and may be unreliable [sic]

2014-05-09 Thread Ian Cordasco
Stefan, If the only way you can think of to invalidate Donald's (vastly superior) arguments is to accuse of him of gossip, you should probably reconsider your arguments. Looking at the conversation you didn't actually link to (https://botbot.me/freenode/python-requests/msg/14389415/) there is no

Re: [Python-Dev] pip SSL

2013-10-19 Thread Ian Cordasco
Also the three of us maintaining requests and the author of urllib3 are all very conscious that the packaged pem file is outdated. We have an open issue about how to rebuild it accurately while taking into consideration (and not including) the ones that have been revoked. Any suggestions you have

Re: [Python-Dev] I cannot create bug reports

2013-04-24 Thread Ian Cordasco
The first thing that comes to mind is that your session expired and you need to log-in again. After logging in myself I see the form in all of it's glory. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Daniel Wong allyourc...@gmail.com wrote: Glorious members of python-dev, I'd like to submit a patch, but I

Re: [Python-Dev] [Announcement] New mailing list for code quality tools including Flake8, Pyflakes and Pep8

2013-04-04 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Alfredo Solano Martínez asol...@icai.es wrote: Hi, Are you planning to cover the code quality of the interpreter itself too? I've been recently reading through the cert.org secure coding practice recommendations and was wondering if there has is any ongoing

[Python-Dev] [Announcement] New mailing list for code quality tools including Flake8, Pyflakes and Pep8

2013-04-03 Thread Ian Cordasco
Hello, There's a new mailing-list related to Python code-quality tools. Are you concerned about the evolution of various code checkers? Do you have questions or suggestions? Subscribe here: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/code-quality Best regards, Ian

Re: [Python-Dev] Can't upload to PyPI

2013-02-21 Thread Ian Cordasco
This is probably better suited to Catalog-sig but you have to edit your credentials in $HOME/.pypirc On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: Since the PyPI security notice of 2013-02-15 I've been unable to upload to PyPI via setup.py upload. I changed my

Re: [Python-Dev] Can't upload to PyPI

2013-02-21 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:27 PM, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: On 2013-02-22 02:09, Ian Cordasco wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: Since the PyPI security notice of 2013-02-15 I've been unable to upload to PyPI via setup.py upload. I

Re: [Python-Dev] why do we allow this syntax?

2013-02-08 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Feb 8, 2013 3:37 PM, Xavier Morel catch-...@masklinn.net wrote: On 2013-02-08, at 18:45 , Chris Withers wrote: On 08/02/2013 16:17, Oscar Benjamin wrote: Decimal.__pos__ uses it to return a Decimal instance that has the default precision of the current Decimal context: from decimal