Re: [Python-Dev] I hope this won't be my last comment here ~ yet it may well be...

[Burkhard Meier]

Ok. no more ellipses...what I was trying to share is an unhappy experience
I had with the open source Linux community.

I am sure this will not happen on this Python Dev list of professionals.

Please ignore my comments.

>From now on I will focus on contributing to Python (especially on a Windows
platform) and not taking up valuable reading time.


Burkhard

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Chris Barker  wrote:

>
>  I'm really confused -- you had a handful of very positive responses to
> your offer to help with Python on Windows.
>
> Then a couple off the cuff remarks (at least one of which was serious)
> about what is often known as "the bus factor":
>
> But I think you may want to take into account the history here. This has
> been talked about A LOT in the Python community for years -- so we may be a
> bit blase about it. Note that Wikipedia's page on the bus factor:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
>
> """An early instance of this sort of query was when Michael McLay publicly
> asked, in 1994, what would happen to the Python language
>  if Guido
> van Rossum  were hit by a
> bus.[8] """
>
> So this has been very, very well hashed out in the Python community.
>
> And a quick look at the existence of this list, the messages on it, and
> the source repo will tell you that Python is in no way a personal project
> of one person. (not to mentions the PSF)
>
> I think the lessons here are:
>
> - don't be too sensitive
>
> and, important for every open source community:
>
> - your comments and questions will be taken far more seriously if you have
> done your homework.
>
> -CHB
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 4:54 AM, Burkhard Meier 
> wrote:
>
>> Please do allow me to share my humble experiences of being a software
>> professional on a Windows platform.
>>
>> Almost 20 years.
>>
>> You know what; when I tried out 'sugar Linux' or Peppermint,,,the "admin'
>> dude kicked me out 5 times in one sole eve,
>>
>> Maybe this is just *me*..
>>
>> You know what: I did have my time with this *open source community*...
>>
>> I was just asking a sincere question.
>>
>> C'mon
>>
>> This was rather very ridiculous.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Python-Dev] I hope this won't be my last comment here ~ yet it may well be...

[Chris Barker]

 I'm really confused -- you had a handful of very positive responses to
your offer to help with Python on Windows.

Then a couple off the cuff remarks (at least one of which was serious)
about what is often known as "the bus factor":

But I think you may want to take into account the history here. This has
been talked about A LOT in the Python community for years -- so we may be a
bit blase about it. Note that Wikipedia's page on the bus factor:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor

"""An early instance of this sort of query was when Michael McLay publicly
asked, in 1994, what would happen to the Python language
 if Guido van
Rossum  were hit by a bus.
[8] """

So this has been very, very well hashed out in the Python community.

And a quick look at the existence of this list, the messages on it, and the
source repo will tell you that Python is in no way a personal project of
one person. (not to mentions the PSF)

I think the lessons here are:

- don't be too sensitive

and, important for every open source community:

- your comments and questions will be taken far more seriously if you have
done your homework.

-CHB


On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 4:54 AM, Burkhard Meier 
wrote:

> Please do allow me to share my humble experiences of being a software
> professional on a Windows platform.
>
> Almost 20 years.
>
> You know what; when I tried out 'sugar Linux' or Peppermint,,,the "admin'
> dude kicked me out 5 times in one sole eve,
>
> Maybe this is just *me*..
>
> You know what: I did have my time with this *open source community*...
>
> I was just asking a sincere question.
>
> C'mon
>
> This was rather very ridiculous.
>
>
>
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> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev
> Unsubscribe:
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/chris.barker%40noaa.gov
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>


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Re: [Python-Dev] I hope this won't be my last comment here ~ yet it may well be...

[Brian Curtin]

On Thursday, April 21, 2016, Burkhard Meier 
wrote:

> Please do allow me to share my humble experiences of being a software
> professional on a Windows platform.
>
> Almost 20 years.
>
> You know what; when I tried out 'sugar Linux' or Peppermint,,,the "admin'
> dude kicked me out 5 times in one sole eve,
>
> Maybe this is just *me*..
>
> You know what: I did have my time with this *open source community*...
>
> I was just asking a sincere question.
>
> C'mon
>
> This was rather very ridiculous.
>
>
>
As someone who spent many years as a Windows user and several years as a
contributor to the Windows build here, if you have constructive thoughts to
share on Python-on-Windows, please share them...but I can't decipher what
any of this message is actually about.

Additionally, you may want to try the python-list mailing list.
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[Python-Dev] I hope this won't be my last comment here ~ yet it may well be...

[Burkhard Meier]

Please do allow me to share my humble experiences of being a software
professional on a Windows platform.

Almost 20 years.

You know what; when I tried out 'sugar Linux' or Peppermint,,,the "admin'
dude kicked me out 5 times in one sole eve,

Maybe this is just *me*..

You know what: I did have my time with this *open source community*...

I was just asking a sincere question.

C'mon

This was rather very ridiculous.
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