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On 01/04/11 00:37, Nick Coghlan wrote:
However, the combination of running on Ubuntu 11.04+ and need to
build security patched version of old Python seems unlikely.
Well, I, for one, have Python 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 3.1 and 3.2
installed in my
On Apr 02, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Stefan Krah wrote:
In this case, it's clearly Ubuntu who is going to break things. Still,
the proposed patch could make life a lot easier for many people.
I'd be more concerned about adding some Debian/Ubuntu special code to setup.py
if it wasn't already a rats nest
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Even if their servers won't run ubuntu 11.04+ (or something with the
same library paths), their development environments will.
They can also patch the Python releases themselves, or use Ubuntu
packages that someone else made for them (they can
On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 08:37 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org wrote:
If I understand the policy correctly, 2.5 and 2.6 are not considered
active branches, so any doc, build or bug fixes are not acceptable.
Actual build fixes may be
Am 31.03.2011 19:35, schrieb Éric Araujo:
I would like to apply this patch (or its moral equivalent) to all active,
affected branches of Python, meaning 2.5 through 2.7, and 3.1 through 3.3, as
soon as possible. Without this, it will be very difficult for anyone on
future Ubuntu or Debian
On 01/04/2011 11:46, Georg Brandl wrote:
Am 31.03.2011 19:35, schrieb Éric Araujo:
I would like to apply this patch (or its moral equivalent) to all active,
affected branches of Python, meaning 2.5 through 2.7, and 3.1 through 3.3, as
soon as possible. Without this, it will be very difficult
On 4/1/2011 6:46 AM, Georg Brandl wrote:
Am 31.03.2011 19:35, schrieb Éric Araujo:
I would like to apply this patch (or its moral equivalent) to all active,
affected branches of Python, meaning 2.5 through 2.7, and 3.1 through 3.3,
as
soon as possible. Without this, it will be very
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 07:57:53 -0400
Eric Smith e...@trueblade.com wrote:
On 4/1/2011 6:46 AM, Georg Brandl wrote:
Am 31.03.2011 19:35, schrieb Éric Araujo:
I would like to apply this patch (or its moral equivalent) to all active,
affected branches of Python, meaning 2.5 through 2.7, and 3.1
On 01/04/2011 13:07, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 07:57:53 -0400
Eric Smithe...@trueblade.com wrote:
On 4/1/2011 6:46 AM, Georg Brandl wrote:
Am 31.03.2011 19:35, schrieb Éric Araujo:
I would like to apply this patch (or its moral equivalent) to all active,
affected branches of
Am 01.04.2011 13:57, schrieb Michael Foord:
On 01/04/2011 11:46, Georg Brandl wrote:
Am 31.03.2011 19:35, schrieb Éric Araujo:
I would like to apply this patch (or its moral equivalent) to all active,
affected branches of Python, meaning 2.5 through 2.7, and 3.1 through
3..3, as
soon as
On 01/04/2011 13:32, Georg Brandl wrote:
Am 01.04.2011 13:57, schrieb Michael Foord:
On 01/04/2011 11:46, Georg Brandl wrote:
Am 31.03.2011 19:35, schrieb Éric Araujo:
I would like to apply this patch (or its moral equivalent) to all active,
affected branches of Python, meaning 2.5 through
I don't see any advantage in leaving erroneous docs online even if we
aren't going to do any new releases.
See thread starting at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-August/103263.html
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 13:37:42 +0100
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
I think I was unclear: I'm not advocating doing doc fixes in security-only
branches; I'm just explaining why it wouldn't even make sense to do these
fixes.
I understood. I was suggesting we modify to allow
On 01/04/2011 13:42, Éric Araujo wrote:
I don't see any advantage in leaving erroneous docs online even if we
aren't going to do any new releases.
See thread starting at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-August/103263.html
As far as I can tell there was no clear decision there
As far as I can tell there was no clear decision there either. :-)
Not my understanding:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-August/103351.html
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On 01/04/2011 14:49, Éric Araujo wrote:
As far as I can tell there was no clear decision there either. :-)
Not my understanding:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-August/103351.html
That was about whether the release manager should backport doc fixes
from 2.7 to the 2.6 branch
On Apr 01, 2011, at 02:07 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
(and, no, I don't think building an old Python on a new Debian/Ubuntu
system is anymore important than other kinds of bug or build fixes;
let's stop implying that Ubuntu is the dominant OS out there, because
it's really not)
For the record, I
On Apr 01, 2011, at 03:07 PM, Michael Foord wrote:
That was about whether the release manager should backport doc fixes from 2.7
to the 2.6 branch and the conclusion was not to bother, which is very
different from saying that individual developers *can't* apply doc fixes if
*they want*.
Of
Am 01.04.2011 14:49, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 13:37:42 +0100
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
I think I was unclear: I'm not advocating doing doc fixes in security-only
branches; I'm just explaining why it wouldn't even make sense to do these
fixes.
I
On 4/1/2011 9:45 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
See thread starting at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-August/103263.html
As far as I can tell there was no clear decision there either. :-)
I read it as deciding no doc fixes.
(Other than no *need* to bother, which doesn't answer
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:17:27 -0400
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
Yeah, I know what I said before but I really am still on the fence about
non-behavior changing fixes. Both sides have valid positions, IMO. :/
Well, how can you be sure it's non-behaviour changing? A bugfix can
always
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:39:59 +0200
Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 01.04.2011 14:49, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 13:37:42 +0100
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
I think I was unclear: I'm not advocating doing doc fixes in
security-only
branches;
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:39:59 +0200
Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 01.04.2011 14:49, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
Well, I think the tradeoff is simply: do you want to do more work?
(or, given the same amount of
FWIW - I maintain legacy code for python2.4, and 2.5 (mainly 2.5).
[...]
As a result, I'm very much +1 on integrating this patch to previous
versions.
Updating 2.4 is clearly out of question; and I veto changing 2.5 in
that respect.
I develop on Ubuntu (and will probably update to 11.04 in a
I wouldn't say doc fixes are not acceptable, but they are rather pointless
since there won't be any more online docs or released docs for those versions.
That's the reason I don't want to see the in the tree, though - if
people commit something, they expect to see it released at some point.
So
I understood. I was suggesting we modify to allow doc changes that fix
errors and push updated docs *online* (not do fresh releases) and asking
why not do that (other than policy)?
It's too much effort in the release process. I don't actually remember
anymore how to do 2.5 documentation
And I don't see a problem with build fixes. It's not like we're adding
language features. If it makes someone's life easier, then what's the harm?
It's extra work with no volunteer doing it.
Regards,
Martin
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On 4/1/2011 3:52 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
And I don't see a problem with build fixes. It's not like we're adding
language features. If it makes someone's life easier, then what's the harm?
It's extra work with no volunteer doing it.
I understood Barry was volunteering. Certainly if no one
Am 01.04.2011 17:03, schrieb Barry Warsaw:
I think there's no harm in build system or doc fixes that will have
no effect on functionality.
I do believe that the build system changes can actually break things.
The first version of your patch produced additional output on stderr,
which may cause
Am 01.04.2011 21:54, schrieb Eric Smith:
On 4/1/2011 3:52 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
And I don't see a problem with build fixes. It's not like we're adding
language features. If it makes someone's life easier, then what's the harm?
It's extra work with no volunteer doing it.
I understood
Am 01.04.2011 18:31, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:39:59 +0200
Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 01.04.2011 14:49, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 13:37:42 +0100
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
I think I was unclear: I'm not advocating
On Apr 01, 2011, at 09:47 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
FWIW - I maintain legacy code for python2.4, and 2.5 (mainly 2.5).
[...]
As a result, I'm very much +1 on integrating this patch to previous
versions.
Updating 2.4 is clearly out of question; and I veto changing 2.5 in
that respect.
Fair
Even if their servers won't run ubuntu 11.04+ (or something with the
same library paths), their development environments will.
They can also patch the Python releases themselves, or use Ubuntu
packages that someone else made for them (they can probably just install
the old 2.4 packages
On 4/1/2011 7:52 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
necessary, I leave it alone. I think we're still due one last bug fix release
of Python 3.1, right?
Yes, hopefully soon.
--
Terry Jan Reedy
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I would like to apply this patch (or its moral equivalent) to all active,
affected branches of Python, meaning 2.5 through 2.7, and 3.1 through 3.3, as
soon as possible. Without this, it will be very difficult for anyone on
future Ubuntu or Debian releases to build Python. Since it's not a
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org wrote:
If I understand the policy correctly, 2.5 and 2.6 are not considered
active branches, so any doc, build or bug fixes are not acceptable.
Actual build fixes may be acceptable, if they're needed to allow
people to build from a
On Apr 01, 2011, at 08:37 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org wrote:
If I understand the policy correctly, 2.5 and 2.6 are not considered
active branches, so any doc, build or bug fixes are not acceptable.
Actual build fixes may be acceptable,
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