Re: [Python-Dev] No releases tonight

2008-03-02 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [20080301 19:57], Christian Heimes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>I also propose translations of the shorter text to important languages
>like French, German, Japanese, Portuguese and Spanish. I'm willing to
>help with the German translation.

I can probably get a translation done in Japanese, Chinese and Korean.

For Portuguese I guess we could ask the ASync guys in Brazil, they're huge
Python users with their work for Canonical/Ubuntu.

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Re: [Python-Dev] No releases tonight

2008-03-01 Thread Hasan Diwan
I'll volunteer to do a French translation of the release.
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Re: [Python-Dev] No releases tonight

2008-03-01 Thread Pavel Vinogradov
On 3/1/08, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  When 3.0a2 was released I contacted two larger German IT news sites. Non
>  of them even bother to reply. :/
>
>  I propose that we provide two official texts for the press. A shorter
>  text which explains Python and the most important changes since the last
>  version in a few paragraphs and a longer, more detailed text like
>  Martin's text for the 2.5.2 release.
>
>  I also propose translations of the shorter text to important languages
>  like French, German, Japanese, Portuguese and Spanish. I'm willing to
>  help with the German translation.
  I'm ready to translate this documents in Russian and submit it to
two or three Russian it-related news site.

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Re: [Python-Dev] No releases tonight

2008-03-01 Thread Christian Heimes
Steve Holden wrote:
> PyCon is using a PR team to help with publicity. Maybe we can ask them 
> for assistance on how to get the word out?

That's a *very* good idea! Let's ask some professionals rather than
writing something on our own.

Christian
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Re: [Python-Dev] No releases tonight

2008-03-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
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On Mar 1, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Christian Heimes wrote:

> Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> In this case, there was a lot more work to do because 2.6 wasn't tied
>> in at all.  Add to the fact that I didn't have any experience with  
>> the
>> website infrastructure made things a bit more difficult the first  
>> time
>> out.  I still don't quite have the 2.6 links working correctly in my
>> local fs.  So the biggest problem is really: what steps do you take
>> when you need to expose a new major release on the website?
>
> Starting with the first betas of 2.6 and 3.0 we should also work on
> official texts for the press. Other projects like PHP are drawing lots
> of attention with their releases, even with bug fix and security
> releases. Bad news are better than no news - a beta release is  
> *good* news.

Great idea, and I agree.  I won't be the person spearheading this  
though, but since it'll probably be me making the announcement, I'd  
like to coordinate with this effort.

> When 3.0a2 was released I contacted two larger German IT news sites.  
> Non
> of them even bother to reply. :/
>
> I propose that we provide two official texts for the press. A shorter
> text which explains Python and the most important changes since the  
> last
> version in a few paragraphs and a longer, more detailed text like
> Martin's text for the 2.5.2 release.
>
> I also propose translations of the shorter text to important languages
> like French, German, Japanese, Portuguese and Spanish. I'm willing to
> help with the German translation.

Cool, thanks.
- -Barry

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Re: [Python-Dev] No releases tonight

2008-03-01 Thread Christian Heimes
Barry Warsaw wrote:
> In this case, there was a lot more work to do because 2.6 wasn't tied
> in at all.  Add to the fact that I didn't have any experience with the
> website infrastructure made things a bit more difficult the first time
> out.  I still don't quite have the 2.6 links working correctly in my
> local fs.  So the biggest problem is really: what steps do you take
> when you need to expose a new major release on the website?

Starting with the first betas of 2.6 and 3.0 we should also work on
official texts for the press. Other projects like PHP are drawing lots
of attention with their releases, even with bug fix and security
releases. Bad news are better than no news - a beta release is *good* news.

When 3.0a2 was released I contacted two larger German IT news sites. Non
of them even bother to reply. :/

I propose that we provide two official texts for the press. A shorter
text which explains Python and the most important changes since the last
version in a few paragraphs and a longer, more detailed text like
Martin's text for the 2.5.2 release.

I also propose translations of the shorter text to important languages
like French, German, Japanese, Portuguese and Spanish. I'm willing to
help with the German translation.

Christian
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Re: [Python-Dev] No releases tonight

2008-03-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
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On Mar 1, 2008, at 12:36 AM, Steve Holden wrote:

> If you can document the web stuff you have to do I will formalize it  
> as
> a procedure for use in future releases.

Hi Steve,

In this case, there was a lot more work to do because 2.6 wasn't tied  
in at all.  Add to the fact that I didn't have any experience with the  
website infrastructure made things a bit more difficult the first time  
out.  I still don't quite have the 2.6 links working correctly in my  
local fs.  So the biggest problem is really: what steps do you take  
when you need to expose a new major release on the website?

- -Barry

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Re: [Python-Dev] No releases tonight

2008-02-29 Thread Steve Holden
Barry Warsaw wrote:
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> 
> I tried, I really did.
> 
> Python 2.6 is nearly ready, I'm mostly trying to figure out how to  
> build the web pages properly.  I haven't started on 3.0, but huge  
> thanks go to Brett Cannon, Neal Norwitz, Mark Dickinson, and Fred  
> Drake for helping out tonight with everything, including fixing the  
> outstanding bugs in 3.0.
> 
> Python 2.6a1 is tagged and built, so feel free to commit changes to  
> the trunk.
> 
> Python 3.0 is not tagged yet so if you can hold off from committing to  
> that branch for a little while longer, that would be appreciated.  I  
> will cut 3.0a3 tomorrow (Saturday) as early as possible.
> 
> time-to-start-drinking-ly y'rs,

Barry:

If you can document the web stuff you have to do I will formalize it as 
a procedure for use in future releases.

regards
  Steve
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[Python-Dev] No releases tonight

2008-02-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
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I tried, I really did.

Python 2.6 is nearly ready, I'm mostly trying to figure out how to  
build the web pages properly.  I haven't started on 3.0, but huge  
thanks go to Brett Cannon, Neal Norwitz, Mark Dickinson, and Fred  
Drake for helping out tonight with everything, including fixing the  
outstanding bugs in 3.0.

Python 2.6a1 is tagged and built, so feel free to commit changes to  
the trunk.

Python 3.0 is not tagged yet so if you can hold off from committing to  
that branch for a little while longer, that would be appreciated.  I  
will cut 3.0a3 tomorrow (Saturday) as early as possible.

time-to-start-drinking-ly y'rs,
- -Barry

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