David R. Murray wrote:
> I think the intuitive notion of "literal" is "the value is literally what is
> written
> here". Which is a redundant statement; 'as written' is, after all, what
> literally
> means when used correctly :). That makes it a language-agnostic concept if
> I'm
> correct.
On Dec 4, 2015, at 00:38, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>
> On 4 December 2015 at 12:48, Andrew Barnert via Python-Dev
> wrote:
>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 17:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 09:25:53AM -0800, Andrew Barnert via Python-Dev
wrote:
I've seen people saying that b
On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 18:38:03 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> Summarising that idea:
>
> * literals: any of the dedicated expressions that produce an instance
> of a builtin type
> * constant literal: literals that produce a constant object that can
> be cached in the bytecode
> * dynamic literal: li
On 4 December 2015 at 12:48, Andrew Barnert via Python-Dev
wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2015, at 17:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 09:25:53AM -0800, Andrew Barnert via Python-Dev
>> wrote:
>>> I've seen people saying that before, but I don't know where they get
>>> that. It's certai
On Dec 3, 2015, at 17:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 09:25:53AM -0800, Andrew Barnert via Python-Dev wrote:
>>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 08:15, MRAB wrote:
>>>
> On 2015-12-03 15:09, Random832 wrote:
> On 2015-12-03, Laura Creighton wrote:
> Who came up with the w
On 2015-12-04 01:56, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I don't see any good reason for maintaining that there's just one
syntax, "display", which comes in two forms: a comma-separated set of
values, or a for-loop. The only thing they have in common (s
On 2015-12-04 01:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 09:25:53AM -0800, Andrew Barnert via Python-Dev wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2015, at 08:15, MRAB wrote:
>
>>> On 2015-12-03 15:09, Random832 wrote:
>>> On 2015-12-03, Laura Creighton wrote:
>>> Who came up with the word 'display' and w
On 12/3/2015 5:56 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
You come across something syntactic that begins by opening a square
bracket, and you know that its semantics are: "construct a new list".
That's what's common here.
What goes*inside* those brackets can be one of two things:
1) A (possibly empty) comm
On 03.12.2015 19:27, Laura Creighton wrote:
> So how do we get search to work so that people in the Language
> Reference who type in 'List Comprehension' get a hit?
It seems that the search index is broken for at least a few
documentation file releases:
ok:
https://docs.python.org/2.6/search.htm
So how do we get search to work so that people in the Language
Reference who type in 'List Comprehension' get a hit?
Laura
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Laura Creighton writes:
> Am I missing something important about the 'display' language?
A display is a constructor that looks like a literal but isn't. It is
syntactically like the printed output, but may contain expressions to
be evaluated at runtime as well as compile-time constant expressio
On 03.12.2015 18:30, Laura Creighton wrote:
> What I would like is if it were a lot easier for a person who just
> saw a list comprehension for the very first time, and was told what it
> is, to have a much, much easier time finding it in the Reference Manual.
Such a person should more likely be d
What I would like is if it were a lot easier for a person who just
saw a list comprehension for the very first time, and was told what it
is, to have a much, much easier time finding it in the Reference Manual.
Would a section on comprehensions in general, defining what a comprehension
is be appro
I borrowed 'display' from the formal definition of ABC. It's still used in
the quick reference: http://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/abc/qr.html#EXPRESSIONS
. I hadn't heard it before and didn't think to research its heritage. I
like it for list/set/dict displays since it's rather a stretch to call
thos
On 3 December 2015 at 14:26, Laura Creighton wrote:
> Am I missing something important about the 'display' language?
It's a term that's used in the lisp and/or functional programming
communities, I believe. And I think I recollect that something similar
is used in (mathematical) set theory So it'
On 03.12.2015 17:09, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:
>
>
> On December 3, 2015 8:26:23 AM CST, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> In a message of Thu, 03 Dec 2015 13:37:17 +, Paul Moore writes:
>>> On 3 December 2015 at 12:51, Laura Creighton wrote:
Intentional or Oversight?
>>>
>>> Hard to find :-)
>>>
>
On December 3, 2015 8:26:23 AM CST, Laura Creighton wrote:
>In a message of Thu, 03 Dec 2015 13:37:17 +, Paul Moore writes:
>>On 3 December 2015 at 12:51, Laura Creighton wrote:
>>> Intentional or Oversight?
>>
>>Hard to find :-)
>>
>>https://docs.python.org/3/reference/expressions.html#dis
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