[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 663:

2021-11-03 Thread Brett Cannon
Rendered versions can be found at the following links: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0663/ https://python.github.io/peps/pep-0663/ On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 8:41 PM Ethan Furman wrote: > See the latest changes, which are mostly a (hopefully) improved abstract, > better tables, and some

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 663: Improving and Standardizing Enum str(), repr(), and format() behaviors

2021-09-13 Thread Steve Dower
On 9/13/2021 8:12 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: On 9/13/21 9:03 AM, Steve Dower wrote: > You *are* allowed to put some (brief) details in the abstract. No need to avoid spoilers ;) > > As it stands, "it is time" on its own is a really bad reason to change anything. So you're > preemptively

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 663: Improving and Standardizing Enum str(), repr(), and format() behaviors

2021-09-13 Thread Ethan Furman
On 9/13/21 9:55 AM, Jelle Zijlstra wrote: > This table doesn't render properly in https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0663/#specification. > - There are some extra blank lines > - Many cells are blank > - There are two "user mixed" rows and it's not clear how those relate to the mention of

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 663: Improving and Standardizing Enum str(), repr(), and format() behaviors

2021-09-13 Thread Ethan Furman
On 9/13/21 9:03 AM, Steve Dower wrote: > You *are* allowed to put some (brief) details in the abstract. No need to avoid spoilers ;) > > As it stands, "it is time" on its own is a really bad reason to change anything. So you're > preemptively making it sound like the PEP has no solid backing.

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 663: Improving and Standardizing Enum str(), repr(), and format() behaviors

2021-09-13 Thread Jelle Zijlstra
El vie, 10 sept 2021 a las 22:56, Ethan Furman () escribió: > > > Specification > = > > There a three broad categories of enum usage: > > - standard: Enum or Flag >a new enum class is created, and the members are used as > ``class.member_name`` > > - drop-in replacement: IntEnum,

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 663: Improving and Standardizing Enum str(), repr(), and format() behaviors

2021-09-13 Thread Steve Dower
On 9/11/2021 6:53 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: Abstract Now that we have a few years experience with Enum usage it is time to update the ``repr()``, ``str()``, and ``format()`` of the various enumerations by their intended purpose. You *are* allowed to put some (brief) details in the

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 663: Improving and Standardizing Enum str(), repr(), and format() behaviors

2021-09-11 Thread Irit Katriel via Python-Dev
> On 11 Sep 2021, at 06:57, Ethan Furman wrote: > > If the previous output needs to be maintained, for example to ensure > compatibily between different Python versions, software projects will need to > create their own enum base class with the appropriate methods overridden. Perhaps you