Re: [Python-Dev] Why are generated files in the repository?

2015-01-25 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Neil Girdhar mistersh...@gmail.com wrote: But you can remove Python/graminit.c and make clean make works, right? If you can write to the directory, yes. Except if you build in a way that you can't run pgen on the host system, like in a cross build (this may

Re: [Python-Dev] Why are generated files in the repository?

2015-01-25 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:00:57 +1000, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: It's far more developer friendly to aim to have builds from a source check-out just work if we can. That's pretty much where we are today (getting external dependencies for the optional parts on *nix can still be a bit

Re: [Python-Dev] Why are generated files in the repository?

2015-01-25 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 26 Jan 2015 02:33, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:00:57 +1000, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: It's far more developer friendly to aim to have builds from a source check-out just work if we can. That's pretty much where we are today (getting

Re: [Python-Dev] Why are generated files in the repository?

2015-01-25 Thread Neil Girdhar
That makes sense. Thanks for explaining. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 4:55 AM, Thomas Wouters tho...@python.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Neil Girdhar mistersh...@gmail.com wrote: But you can remove Python/graminit.c and make clean make works, right? If you can write to the

Re: [Python-Dev] Why are generated files in the repository?

2015-01-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 25 Jan 2015 01:09, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015, at 03:00, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 20 January 2015 at 10:53, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2015, at 19:40, Neil Girdhar wrote: I was also wondering why files

Re: [Python-Dev] Why are generated files in the repository?

2015-01-24 Thread Neil Girdhar
But you can remove Python/graminit.c and make clean make works, right? On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 Jan 2015 01:09, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015, at 03:00, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 20 January 2015

Re: [Python-Dev] Why are generated files in the repository?

2015-01-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 20 January 2015 at 10:53, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2015, at 19:40, Neil Girdhar wrote: I was also wondering why files like Python/graminit.c are in the respository? They generate spurious merge conflicts. Convenience mostly. It also gets us a round a

Re: [Python-Dev] Why are generated files in the repository?

2015-01-24 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015, at 03:00, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 20 January 2015 at 10:53, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2015, at 19:40, Neil Girdhar wrote: I was also wondering why files like Python/graminit.c are in the respository? They generate spurious

Re: [Python-Dev] Why are generated files in the repository?

2015-01-19 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015, at 19:40, Neil Girdhar wrote: I was also wondering why files like Python/graminit.c are in the respository? They generate spurious merge conflicts. Convenience mostly. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

[Python-Dev] Why are generated files in the repository?

2015-01-19 Thread Neil Girdhar
Hi everyone, I tried to work on PEP 448 and updated the latest patch to Python 3.5. I uploaded the new diff here: http://bugs.python.org/issue2292. I don't know how to debug further. Is there a way to view the compiled output despite Python not starting up? I was also wondering why files like