Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #1172711: Add 'long long' support to the array module.
Am 21.09.2011 15:25, schrieb Ezio Melotti: @@ -1205,6 +1214,18 @@ minitemsize = 4 tests.append(UnsignedLongTest) +@unittest.skipIf(not have_long_long, 'need long long support') I think this would read better with skipUnless and s/have/has/: @unittest.skipUnless(HAS_LONG_LONG, 'need long long support') I don't think so. skip if not reads pretty well for me, while I always have to think twice about unless -- may be a non-native- speaker thing. Georg ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #1172711: Add 'long long' support to the array module.
2011/9/21 Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net: Am 21.09.2011 15:25, schrieb Ezio Melotti: @@ -1205,6 +1214,18 @@ minitemsize = 4 tests.append(UnsignedLongTest) +@unittest.skipIf(not have_long_long, 'need long long support') I think this would read better with skipUnless and s/have/has/: @unittest.skipUnless(HAS_LONG_LONG, 'need long long support') I don't think so. skip if not reads pretty well for me, while I always have to think twice about unless -- may be a non-native- speaker thing. You might also not program in Ruby enough. :) -- Regards, Benjamin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #1172711: Add 'long long' support to the array module.
Georg Brandl writes: I don't think so. skip if not reads pretty well for me, while I always have to think twice about unless -- may be a non-native- speaker thing. FWIW, speaking as one native speaker, I'm not sure about that. do ... if not condition doesn't bother me, whether I think of the condition as an exception or as the normal state of affairs. I find do ... unless condition to be quite awkward if the condition is a normal state. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #1172711: Add 'long long' support to the array module.
On 21/09/2011 18:02, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Georg Brandl writes: I don't think so. skip if not reads pretty well for me, while I always have to think twice about unless -- may be a non-native- speaker thing. FWIW, speaking as one native speaker, I'm not sure about that. do ... if not condition doesn't bother me, whether I think of the condition as an exception or as the normal state of affairs. I find do ... unless condition to be quite awkward if the condition is a normal state. I'm not a big fan of skipUnless, but there you go. I find skip if not readable too and always have to work out what skipUnless means. It's probably just that if and if not are such Python idioms and unless isn't. Michael ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/fuzzyman%40voidspace.org.uk -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #1172711: Add 'long long' support to the array module.
On 21/09/2011 21.08, Michael Foord wrote: On 21/09/2011 18:02, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Georg Brandl writes: I don't think so. skip if not reads pretty well for me, while I always have to think twice about unless -- may be a non-native- speaker thing. FWIW, speaking as one native speaker, I'm not sure about that. do ... if not condition doesn't bother me, whether I think of the condition as an exception or as the normal state of affairs. I find do ... unless condition to be quite awkward if the condition is a normal state. I'm not a big fan of skipUnless, but there you go. I find skip if not readable too and always have to work out what skipUnless means. It's probably just that if and if not are such Python idioms and unless isn't. I don't find it too readable in other contexts (e.g. failUnless), but I probably got used to skipUnless with the idiom: try: import foo except ImportError: foo = None @skipUnless(foo, 'requires foo') ... FWIW in Lib/test/support.py we have a skip_unless_symlink, but the other two skipUnless have more readable names: requires_zlib and requires_IEEE_754. In Lib/test/ skipUnless is used about 250 times, skipIf about 100. Best Regards, Ezio Melotti Michael ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com