Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (3.3): Update Sphinx toolchain.

2014-01-13 Thread anatoly techtonik
That's cool, but historical heritage makes the make argument somewhat confusing for new users. The immediate question I can sense is What is the difference between build and make? To make (this word again) the critics constructive, let me pass some ideas about ideal user experience as I see it.

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (3.3): Update Sphinx toolchain.

2014-01-13 Thread Georg Brandl
[If you want to continue this discussio, please move it from python-dev to sphinx-users. It is now completely offtopic for the former.] Anyway, just as a short explanation, you missed the point of the change: -M is not meant to be used directly but still via a (very short) Makefile. This isn't

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (3.3): Update Sphinx toolchain.

2014-01-12 Thread INADA Naoki
What about using venv and pip instead of svn? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote: Am 11.01.2014 21:11, schrieb Terry Reedy: On 1/11/2014 2:04 PM, georg.brandl wrote: http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/87bdee4d633a changeset: 88413:87bdee4d633a branch:

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (3.3): Update Sphinx toolchain.

2014-01-12 Thread Georg Brandl
Planned :) Georg Am 12.01.2014 09:12, schrieb INADA Naoki: What about using venv and pip instead of svn? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net mailto:g.bra...@gmx.net wrote: Am 11.01.2014 21:11, schrieb Terry Reedy: On 1/11/2014 2:04 PM, georg.brandl

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (3.3): Update Sphinx toolchain.

2014-01-12 Thread anatoly techtonik
And cross-platform automation tools in Python instead of make https://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx/issue/456/makepy-command-script -- anatoly t. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:12 AM, INADA Naoki songofaca...@gmail.com wrote: What about using venv and pip instead of svn? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014