Re: [Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
Brian Curtin writes: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 01:15, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Brian Curtin writes: If you want to contribute to development, I think you'll know that a link about development is relevant. For values of you in experienced programmers, yes. But translators and tech writers don't consider what they do to be development. I don't know what this is saying, but I'll guess it's some suggestion that we should still name the link Contributing. No, it's saying that there are a lot of potential contributors for whom Core Development is pretty obviously not where they want to go. There should be a link that is the obvious place for them to go, and there currently isn't one. I don't have a problem with the presence of a core development link that goes to the devguide. I do have a problem with failing to invite people who are not at present interested in contributing code or money to contribute what they have. The next question is how many links do we want in that sidebar; I think there may already be too many. But I'm not a web designer to have a strong opinion on that. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
Le 11/02/2012 12:00, Eli Bendersky a écrit : Well, I think the situation is pretty good now. If one goes to python.org and is interested in contributing, clicking on the Core Development link is a sensible step, right? Maybe, depending on your knowledge of jargon. How about rewording that link to “Contributing”? Regards ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 18:21, Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org wrote: Le 11/02/2012 12:00, Eli Bendersky a écrit : Well, I think the situation is pretty good now. If one goes to python.org and is interested in contributing, clicking on the Core Development link is a sensible step, right? Maybe, depending on your knowledge of jargon. How about rewording that link to “Contributing”? If you want to contribute to development, I think you'll know that a link about development is relevant. If you want to contribute money, a contribute link about development means you have to try again to give away your money. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
Brian Curtin writes: If you want to contribute to development, I think you'll know that a link about development is relevant. For values of you in experienced programmers, yes. But translators and tech writers don't consider what they do to be development. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 01:15, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Brian Curtin writes: If you want to contribute to development, I think you'll know that a link about development is relevant. For values of you in experienced programmers, yes. But translators and tech writers don't consider what they do to be development. I don't know what this is saying, but I'll guess it's some suggestion that we should still name the link Contributing. Keep in mind that the current Core Development link on the front page goes directly to http://docs.python.org/devguide/ -- getting this page in people's hands earlier is a Good Thing. However, this is not a correct link from something named Contributing. It would have to say Contributing Code, but then it leaves out docs and translations and our resident spelling bee contestants. Paint the bike shed any way you want except the plain Contributing color, please. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
Eli Bendersky writes: Well, I think the situation is pretty good now. I agree, but improvement is always possible. If one goes to python.org and is interested in contributing, clicking on the Core Development link is a sensible step, right? Maybe. But a lot of the Core Dev links I've seen are maintained by and for incumbent core devs, and are somewhat intimidating for new users and developers. How about moving the About | Getting Started link to the top level and giving it a set of links like - Standalone Scripting - Extending Apps Using Python as Extension Language - Developing Apps in Python (this is what I think of when I read the current Getting Started with Python page, FWIW YMMV) - Developing Library Modules to Extend Python - Developing Python (there's work you can do, too!) This is similar to the existing About | Getting Started page, but more accessible (in the sense of being an index, rather than a more verbose description containing scattered links). I think most of them can go to existing pages. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
On 11/02/2012 03:14, Eli Bendersky wrote: On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 03:38, Jesse Nollerjnol...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to publicize it on twitter, my blog, google plus and elsewhere. help welcome. It also appears in the first paragraph of Contributing in the dev guide - which is pointed to by the main page at python.org (Core Development link). Mark, do you have a concrete idea of how it can be made more prominent? Eli Eli, quite frankly no :( The stock answer put it on the main page at python.org if actually followed up in all cases would result in something unreadable, as the page would be too noisy and displayed in something like Palatino size 1 (if there is such a thing). I'm just crossing my fingers and hoping that someone with far more than my own miniscule imagination can come up with a sensible suggestion. -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
Eli, quite frankly no :( The stock answer put it on the main page at python.org if actually followed up in all cases would result in something unreadable, as the page would be too noisy and displayed in something like Palatino size 1 (if there is such a thing). I'm just crossing my fingers and hoping that someone with far more than my own miniscule imagination can come up with a sensible suggestion. Well, I think the situation is pretty good now. If one goes to python.org and is interested in contributing, clicking on the Core Development link is a sensible step, right? It then leads to the Devguide, which is a relatively new thing. Reading that opening page of the devguide which is linked to from Core Development should give aspiring contributors all the information they need, including a link to the mentorship site. Eli ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
Hi all, I'd never heard of this until some Dutch geezer whose name I'm now forgotten pointed me to it. Had I known about it a couple of years ago it would have saved a lot of people a lot of grief. Please could it be given a bit of publicity. -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence. p.s. The Dutch geezer in question competes with Dr. Who for having the bast time travelling machine :) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
I've been trying to publicize it on twitter, my blog, google plus and elsewhere. help welcome. On Friday, February 10, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: Hi all, I'd never heard of this until some Dutch geezer whose name I'm now forgotten pointed me to it. Had I known about it a couple of years ago it would have saved a lot of people a lot of grief. Please could it be given a bit of publicity. -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence. p.s. The Dutch geezer in question competes with Dr. Who for having the bast time travelling machine :) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org (mailto:Python-Dev@python.org) http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/jnoller%40gmail.com ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 03:38, Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to publicize it on twitter, my blog, google plus and elsewhere. help welcome. It also appears in the first paragraph of Contributing in the dev guide - which is pointed to by the main page at python.org (Core Development link). Mark, do you have a concrete idea of how it can be made more prominent? Eli ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, do you have a concrete idea of how it can be made more prominent? Mark didn't know about it because the core-mentorship list didn't exist yet in the timeframe he's talking about :) Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncogh...@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] http://pythonmentors.com/
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 08:27, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, do you have a concrete idea of how it can be made more prominent? Mark didn't know about it because the core-mentorship list didn't exist yet in the timeframe he's talking about :) Yes, but he *now* asks to give it more publicity. Hence my question. Eli ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
