Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Jim Baker
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Re: [Python-Dev] Reviving restricted mode?

2009-02-24 Thread Jim Baker
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Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 377 - allow __enter__() methods to skip the statement body

2009-03-15 Thread Jim Baker
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[Python-Dev] Contributor Agreements for Patches - was [Jython-dev] Jython on Google AppEngine!

2009-04-08 Thread Jim Baker
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Re: [Python-Dev] Contributor Agreements for Patches - was [Jython-dev] Jython on Google AppEngine!

2009-04-08 Thread Jim Baker
Oops, didn't attach the entire thread, so see below: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Jim Baker jba...@zyasoft.com wrote: A question that arose on this thread, which I'm forwarding for context (and we're quite happy about it too!): - What is the scope of a patch that requires a contributor

Re: [Python-Dev] Shorter float repr in Python 3.1?

2009-04-14 Thread Jim Baker
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Re: [Python-Dev] Criticism of execfile() removal in Python3

2014-06-09 Thread Jim Baker
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: ... There's nothing stopping alternative implementations having their own implementation-specific standard library modules. steve@orac:/home/s$ jython Jython 2.5.1+ (Release_2_5_1, Aug 4 2010, 07:18:19) [OpenJDK

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposed schedule for 3.4.2

2014-09-08 Thread Jim Baker
+1 for the suggested change to 2.7. Something I have put off in the work on SSL support in Jython 2.7 is what to do about the possibility of adding a large security hole to support standard Python behavior here with CERT_NONE. By default, we use the standard trust database and corresponding

Re: [Python-Dev] Multilingual programming article on the Red Hat Developer blog

2014-09-16 Thread Jim Baker
Great points here - I especially like the concluding statement you can't treat it as a pure Unicode string - it's a Unicode string with smuggled bytes Given that Jython uses UTF-16 as its representation, it is possible to frequently smuggle isolated surrogates in it. A surrogate pair must be a

[Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code

2015-03-21 Thread Jim Baker
Jython plans to participate in the Google Summer of Code for 2015. If you are interested, I have outlined a number of projects on our ideas page that students could work on: - Work on JyNI, which adds C extension API support to Jython - Performance optimizations, including startup time -

Re: [Python-Dev] Type hints -- a mediocre programmer's reaction

2015-04-21 Thread Jim Baker
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: ... Pretty accurate, yeah. Here's how I see it: def incremental_parser(input: FileLike) - List[Token]: tokens = [] data = while True: if not data: data = input.read(64)

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-16 Thread Jim Baker
Brett, Very cool, I'm glad to see that Jython's performance was competitive under most of these benchmarks. I would also be interested in joining the proposed mailing list. re elementtree - I assume the benchmarking is usually done with cElementTree. However Jython currently lacks a Java

Re: [Python-Dev] New OpenSSL - has anyone ever looked at (in)compatibility with LibreSSL

2016-03-14 Thread Jim Baker
I have no vested interest in this, other than the continuing work we have done to make Jython compatible with OpenSSL's model, warts and all. But the fact that BoringSSL cleans up the OpenSSL API ( https://boringssl.googlesource.com/boringssl/+/HEAD/PORTING.md), at the cost of possible backwards

Re: [Python-Dev] RFC: Backport ssl.MemoryBIO and ssl.SSLObject to Python 2.7

2017-05-31 Thread Jim Baker
Jython 2.7.1 is about to be released, with full support of upstream pip (9.0.1), and corresponding vendored libraries, including requests. However, this proposed new feature for CPython 2.7, and its usage, will likely break pip on Jython 2.7.x going forward, given that future versions of pip will

Re: [Python-Dev] RFC: Backport ssl.MemoryBIO and ssl.SSLObject to Python 2.7

2017-06-07 Thread Jim Baker
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Cory Benfield <c...@lukasa.co.uk> wrote: > > On 6 Jun 2017, at 18:49, Jim Baker <jim.ba...@python.org> wrote: > > With Nick's suggestion of _tls_bootstrap, this has certainly become more > complicated. I'm still thinking of the ramifica

Re: [Python-Dev] RFC: Backport ssl.MemoryBIO and ssl.SSLObject to Python 2.7

2017-05-31 Thread Jim Baker
://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/#upgrade-path is rather clear here. - Jim On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Victor Stinner <victor.stin...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2017-05-31 17:45 GMT+02:00 Jim Baker <jim.ba...@python.org>: > > Given that this proposed new feature is for 2.7 to suppo

Re: [Python-Dev] RFC: Backport ssl.MemoryBIO and ssl.SSLObject to Python 2.7

2017-06-06 Thread Jim Baker
With Nick's suggestion of _tls_bootstrap, this has certainly become more complicated. I'm still thinking of the ramifications for future Jython 2.7 support, if Python dev goes down this path. It still seems easier to me to avoid exposing the SSLObject/MemoryBIO model to 2.7 and instead concentrate

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 550 and other python implementations

2017-08-25 Thread Jim Baker
re other implementations: the model presented in https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0550/#implementation seems perfectly compatible with Jython. It's just one more thing we would add to PyThreadState (which is what it's also called in the Jython runtime). On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Jim J.

Re: [Python-Dev] Guarantee ordered dict literals in v3.7?

2017-11-04 Thread Jim Baker
+1, as Guido correctly recalls, this language guarantee will work well with Jython when we get to the point of implementing 3.7+. On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > This sounds reasonable -- I think when we introduced this in 3.6 we were > worried that

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 611 -- why limit coroutines and classes?

2019-12-09 Thread Jim Baker
I was thinking the same thing. We should distinguish limits with respect to the codegen process, which seem reasonable, vs runtime. Classes and coroutines are objects, and like objects in general, the program should have the option of filling its heap with any arbitrary objects. (Whether wise or

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 622 version 2 (Structural Pattern Matching)

2020-07-10 Thread Jim Baker
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 9:16 AM Eric Nieuwland wrote: > > On 10 Jul 2020, at 01:51, Jim Baker wrote: > > ... > Explicit namespacing (if a constant) or using a guard (if a variable) > seems to be the right solution, as Ethan demonstrated earlier. No need for > . or ^ or \ o

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 622 version 2 (Structural Pattern Matching)

2020-07-10 Thread Jim Baker
I did make the following arguments about less indentation in https://github.com/gvanrossum/patma/issues/59 To recap: 1. Similarity to if/elif/else and try/except/finally statements in how code lines up 2. Less apparent complexity, since indentation is a visual signal for such 3.

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 622 version 2 (Structural Pattern Matching)

2020-07-09 Thread Jim Baker
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 1:42 PM Eric Nieuwland wrote: > Much of the discussion seems to focus on how to distinguish between a > variable as a provider of a value and a variable as receiver of a matched > value. > > In normal Python syntax a variable in an expression provides a value, > please