Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-27 Thread Xavier Morel
On 26 Jan 2010, at 17:09 , Glenn Linderman wrote: > >>> Why can't we just be like the rest of the universe and have one >>> icon type for packages and one icon type for applications. >>> >>> Double click them and they get filed in the right place. >>> >> >> What platform files things in the rig

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-27 Thread Glenn Linderman
Yesterday, I said: On approximately 1/25/2010 9:27 PM, came the following characters from the keyboard of David Lyon: Firstly, it doesn't create create desktop shortcuts - sorry users need those. Where do the programs go? So let's say that the .zip file was dropped onto the Desktop or start

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-26 Thread Michael Foord
On 26/01/2010 05:27, David Lyon wrote: At 03:15 PM 1/26/2010 +1100, David Lyon wrote: With all due respect, that process is a bit like a black magic approach. Maybe the capability is there, but it isn't very well documented and it isn't obvious. I don't see what's so hard about:

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-26 Thread Glenn Linderman
On approximately 1/25/2010 9:27 PM, came the following characters from the keyboard of David Lyon: Firstly, it doesn't create create desktop shortcuts - sorry users need those. Where do the programs go? So let's say that the .zip file was dropped onto the Desktop or start menu. It would h

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-25 Thread Vinay Sajip
Barry Warsaw python.org> writes: > > On Jan 22, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: > > >Can you tell us where Uncle Timmy has been and when he'll be back? > > He's given up bags of ham for walls of chocolate. > In the Mountain View Chocolate Factory? Regards, Vinay Sajip _

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-25 Thread David Lyon
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 06:27, David Lyon > wrote: >> Secondly, I never knew about it. > > Why did you say the process was like black magic when you didn't know > about it? > > Is this a distutils option? > > No, it's new in Python 2.6, which Nick Coghlan clearly stated in the > text you quoted

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-25 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 06:27, David Lyon wrote: > Secondly, I never knew about it. Why did you say the process was like black magic when you didn't know about it? Is this a distutils option? No, it's new in Python 2.6, which Nick Coghlan clearly stated in the text you quoted before saying it w

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-25 Thread David Lyon
> At 03:15 PM 1/26/2010 +1100, David Lyon wrote: >>With all due respect, that process is a bit like a black magic >>approach. Maybe the capability is there, but it isn't very well >>documented and it isn't obvious. > > I don't see what's so hard about: > > 1. Zip up your application in myapp.zip wi

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-25 Thread P.J. Eby
At 03:15 PM 1/26/2010 +1100, David Lyon wrote: With all due respect, that process is a bit like a black magic approach. Maybe the capability is there, but it isn't very well documented and it isn't obvious. I don't see what's so hard about: 1. Zip up your application in myapp.zip with a __main

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-25 Thread David Lyon
Nick Coghlan: >> I'd like to see Python 3+ be more suitable for full distributable >> applications over 2.X and earlier. > > Out of curiousity, have you tried experimenting with the zipfile > execution capabilities in 2.6/3.1? A major part of that was to make > multi-file Python applications nearl

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-25 Thread Nick Coghlan
Ron Adam wrote: > I'd like to see Python 3+ be more suitable for full distributable > applications over 2.X and earlier. Out of curiousity, have you tried experimenting with the zipfile execution capabilities in 2.6/3.1? A major part of that was to make multi-file Python applications nearly as eas

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-25 Thread Ron Adam
Guido van Rossum wrote: Please mail me topics you'd like to hear me talk about in my keynote at PyCon this year. How about something on the differences and obstacles of using Python for developing full distributable applications vs small local scripts. I'd like to see Python 3+ be more suit

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 22, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: >Can you tell us where Uncle Timmy has been and when he'll be back? He's given up bags of ham for walls of chocolate. -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Python-Dev mailing list Pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-22 Thread Chris McDonough
Guido van Rossum wrote: Please mail me topics you'd like to hear me talk about in my keynote at PyCon this year. Can you tell us where Uncle Timmy has been and when he'll be back? ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-22 Thread Gerard Flanagan
Guido van Rossum wrote: Please mail me topics you'd like to hear me talk about in my keynote at PyCon this year. You might like to comment on the rumored links between the Chinese Government and the Python Softwamnnn..

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-22 Thread Justin Lilly
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Please mail me topics you'd like to hear me talk about in my keynote > at PyCon this year. > > -- > --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-21 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jesse Noller wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:16 PM, wrote: >> How about explaining why you're not going to give Collin a pony? >> >> Skip > > You're on to something, but the question is: > > 1> How do we get a pony to atlanta > 2> Later deliver

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-21 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Jesse Noller wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:16 PM,   wrote: >> >> How about explaining why you're not going to give Collin a pony? >> >> Skip > > You're on to something, but the question is: > > 1> How do we get a pony to atlanta > 2> Later deliver it to Mounta

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-21 Thread Jesse Noller
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:16 PM, wrote: > > How about explaining why you're not going to give Collin a pony? > > Skip You're on to something, but the question is: 1> How do we get a pony to atlanta 2> Later deliver it to Mountain View 3> Get it to review patches? ___

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-21 Thread skip
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Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-21 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 19:51, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Please mail me topics you'd like to hear me talk about in my keynote > at PyCon this year. Your thoughts on "lean stdlib" (obviously not too lean) vs. "fat stdlib" might be interesting. Cheers, Dirkjan

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
Hmmm. A list of favorite restaurants? OK, more seriously: Your favourite python tools. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.or

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-21 Thread Collin Winter
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Kortatu wrote: > Hi! > > For me, could be very interesting something about Unladen Swallow, and your > opinion about JIT compilers. FWIW, there will be a separate talk about Unladen Swallow at PyCon. I for one would like to hear Guido talk about something else :)

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-21 Thread Kortatu
Hi! For me, could be very interesting something about Unladen Swallow, and your opinion about JIT compilers. Unfortunately, I can't go to PyCon, are you going to upload the keynote presentation? Cheers. 2010/1/21 Michael Foord > On 21/01/2010 15:03, Thomas Wouters wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 1

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-21 Thread Michael Foord
On 21/01/2010 15:03, Thomas Wouters wrote: On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 19:51, Guido van Rossum > wrote: Please mail me topics you'd like to hear me talk about in my keynote at PyCon this year. How about something completely different... ? Your history of Pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-21 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 19:51, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Please mail me topics you'd like to hear me talk about in my keynote > at PyCon this year. I'd like to hear you lay to rest that nonsense about you retiring :> -- Thomas Wouters Hi! I'm a .signature virus! copy me into your .signature

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon Keynote

2010-01-18 Thread David Lyon
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:51:14 -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Please mail me topics you'd like to hear me talk about in my keynote > at PyCon this year. As a typical (but perphaps more vocal) python developer I would like to hear things that might aspire me and others to move to python 3. The w