Re: [Python-Dev] hg vs Github [was: PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github]
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Jim J. Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com wrote: What I really don't understand is why this discussion is hg v. GitHub, when it should be hg v. git. Particular hosting is a secondary issue I think even the proponents concede that git isn't better enough to justify a switch in repositories. They do claim that GitHub (the whole environment; not just the hosting) is so much better that a switch to GitHub is justified. Github + hg offers far fewer benefits than Github + git, so also switching to git is part of the price. Whether that is an intolerable markup or a discount is disputed, as are the value of several other costs and benefits. git - GitHub hg + hgweb GitHub + hg hg + hgweb GitHub + git hg + hgweb GitHub + git = hg + hgweb + Roundup GitHub + git hg + hgweb + Roundup + Rietveld (GitHub + git) * Python = 0 (hg + hgweb) * Python = 1 There is also a question of support. Obviously Roundup will degrade over time if there is economic support for coordination action for people working on it, no matter how strong is their open source and community spirits. It was fun back in the days, but now time control and human resource mining techniques are so perfect that I hardly imagine someone to have free time to work on community open source projects. With no time to support our own dogfood, the community will have to switch to GitHub sooner or later, because that is the thing that saves time so valuable. GitLab could be a open source alternative if Python community chooses to be more tolerant to use Ruby tools dogfood in its ecosystem. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] hg vs Github [was: PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github]
Links to OT (pending a mailman upgrade with auto-appended links): https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2014-November/137283.html https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2014-December/thread.html#137381 http://westurner.github.io/wiki/ideas#open-source-mailing-list-extractor (sphinx + github wiki repo) On Dec 1, 2014 11:37 AM, Jim J. Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com wrote: M. Cepl asked: What I really don't understand is why this discussion is hg v. GitHub, when it should be hg v. git. Particular hosting is a secondary issue I think even the proponents concede that git isn't better enough to justify a switch in repositories. They do claim that GitHub (the whole environment; not just the hosting) is so much better that a switch to GitHub is justified. Github + hg offers far fewer benefits than Github + git, so also switching to git is part of the price. Whether that is an intolerable markup or a discount is disputed, as are the value of several other costs and benefits. -jJ -- If there are still threading problems with my replies, please email me with details, so that I can try to resolve them. -jJ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/wes.turner%40gmail.com ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] hg vs Github [was: PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github]
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Jim J. Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com wrote: I think even the proponents concede that git isn't better enough to justify a switch in repositories. There are also many who find the Bitbucket tools more usable than the Github tools. I'm not aware of any functional differences (though I don't often use Github myself), but the Bitbucket UIs have a much cleaner feel to them. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr.fred at fdrake.net A storm broke loose in my mind. --Albert Einstein ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] hg vs Github [was: PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github]
hg vs Github At best, this is apples to oranges in comparing a DVCS to a platform, or was the intention to change the subject to hg vs git? If so, then it's promoting a developer tool war in the same vein as the never ending vim vs emacs and will likely only result in continued dissension. IMHO, there's really no point in continuing this discussion past decisions to be made by a select few in the thread discussing PEP 481. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Fred Drake f...@fdrake.net wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Jim J. Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com wrote: I think even the proponents concede that git isn't better enough to justify a switch in repositories. There are also many who find the Bitbucket tools more usable than the Github tools. I'm not aware of any functional differences (though I don't often use Github myself), but the Bitbucket UIs have a much cleaner feel to them. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr.fred at fdrake.net A storm broke loose in my mind. --Albert Einstein ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/demianbrecht%40gmail.com -- Demian Brecht https://demianbrecht.github.io https://github.com/demianbrecht ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
