Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-23 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 03/23/18 17:57, Randy Barlow wrote: On 03/23/2018 07:23 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote: In case no one steps up, we'd like to start dropping Python 2 support from dependent packages *now*, starting with ported libraries on whose python2 version nothing in Fedora depends. (We keep a list of those at

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-23 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 03/23/18 18:41, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 9:50 AM Petr Viktorin > wrote: On 03/23/18 16:43, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 8:13 AM Petr Viktorin mailto:pvikt...@redhat.com> >

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 9:50 AM Petr Viktorin wrote: > On 03/23/18 16:43, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 8:13 AM Petr Viktorin > > wrote: > > > > On 03/23/18 15:15, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > Something that occurred to me last night,

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-23 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 03/23/18 16:43, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 8:13 AM Petr Viktorin > wrote: On 03/23/18 15:15, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Something that occurred to me last night, rather than a conditional on > Fedora version, is there a macro th

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-23 Thread John Dulaney
On Màrt 23, 2018 aig 03:43:13f +, Toshio Kuratomi sgrìobh: > Depends on what the groups of packagers want... A macro for Django would > definitely have given an easy option for packagers to take advantage of. > Otoh, how far in advance was the Django removal telegraphed and how much > chance wa

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 8:13 AM Petr Viktorin wrote: > On 03/23/18 15:15, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > Something that occurred to me last night, rather than a conditional on > > Fedora version, is there a macro that we could provide to mean python2 > > is available in this Fedora version? That way p

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-23 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 03/23/18 15:15, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Something that occurred to me last night, rather than a conditional on Fedora version, is there a macro that we could provide to mean python2 is available in this Fedora version?  That way packagers wanting to support their packages on the versions of p

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Something that occurred to me last night, rather than a conditional on Fedora version, is there a macro that we could provide to mean python2 is available in this Fedora version? That way packagers wanting to support their packages on the versions of python that the platform ships can conditionali

Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-23 Thread Petr Viktorin
tl;dr: Unless someone steps up to maintain Python 2 after 2020, we need to start dropping python2 packages now. Python 2.7 will reach end of upstream support on 1st of January, 2020, after almost 10 years (!) of volunteer maintenance. Fedora still has more than 3000 packages depending on pyt

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-23 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 22.3.2018 17:17, John Dulaney wrote:> I notice that [1] does not update, though if you click on a specific package, that page does update. For an example: http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/pkg/python-xcffib/ What do you mean by dos not update? Might that be browser cache thing? -- Miro Hrončok