Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-23 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 03/23/18 17:57, Randy Barlow wrote: On 03/23/2018 07:23 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote: In case no one steps up, we'd like to start dropping Python 2 support from dependent packages *now*, starting with ported libraries on whose python2 version nothing in Fedora depends. (We keep a list of those at

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-21 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 03/20/18 21:47, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 04:11:46PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 03:28:23PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 20.3.2018 14:45, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Indeed, I'm using those python packages like

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-20 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 04:11:46PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 03:28:23PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 20.3.2018 14:45, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > >Indeed, I'm using those python packages like a dinosaur ;) > > > > :D > > > > >What about

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 20.3.2018 17:11, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Should a Fedora Change for that release be crafted that says "Mass python2 packages removal"? Yeah, I think it should be filed as a F29 change. I think we should send the e-mail first and do that after, if nobody takes python2. --

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-20 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 03:28:23PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 20.3.2018 14:45, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >Indeed, I'm using those python packages like a dinosaur ;) > > :D > > >What about adding conditionals like > > > >%if 0%{?rhel} > 7 || 0%{?fedora} > 31 > ># Disable python2

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-20 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 03/20/18 14:45, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:23:06PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 20.3.2018 11:25, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: to push the whole ecosystem. The proposed model of nipping python2 support at the edges is the same thing, in reverse.

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 20.3.2018 14:45, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Indeed, I'm using those python packages like a dinosaur ;) :D What about adding conditionals like %if 0%{?rhel} > 7 || 0%{?fedora} > 31 # Disable python2 build by default %bcond_with python2 %else %bcond_without python2 %endif starting

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 20.3.2018 11:25, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: to push the whole ecosystem. The proposed model of nipping python2 support at the edges is the same thing, in reverse. First some leaf packages are dropped, and then some somewhat more important packages, and then suddenly it becomes hard to

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-20 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:51:30AM +0100, Petr Viktorin wrote: > Hello, > Here is a message I want to post to devel-announce later. Let me > know if you see anything wrong (or would like to take over python2 > maintainership). > > --- > Intent to orphan Python 2 First

Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-20 Thread Petr Viktorin
Hello, Here is a message I want to post to devel-announce later. Let me know if you see anything wrong (or would like to take over python2 maintainership). --- Intent to orphan Python 2 tl;dr: Unless someone steps up to Python 2 after 2020, we need to start dropping python2 packages now