Re: Renaming python to python2

2016-09-05 Thread Avram Lubkin
On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > * Tier 0: "the default Python" is determined at the distribution > level. For the majority of current distributions, that means Python 2, > but on a select few it means Python 3. > > * Tier 1: "the default Python" is

Re: Renaming python to python2

2016-09-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 1 September 2016 at 22:04, Avram Lubkin wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> >> >> The ideal point we'd like to get to is one where all distro provided >> scripts actually have the appropriate major version in their

Re: Renaming python to python2

2016-09-01 Thread Avram Lubkin
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote: > > Whatever we do, I'd like it to be coordinated across multiple > distrubutions, and blesed by a PEP like [PEP 394]. We don't want a solution > specific to Fedora. > Completely agree. Based on the suggestions offered

Re: Renaming python to python2

2016-09-01 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 09/01/2016 01:44 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: For /usr/bin/python, we had an upstream discussion about that at the 2015 language summit: https://lwn.net/Articles/640296/ Whatever we do, I'd like it to be coordinated across multiple distrubutions, and blesed by a PEP like [PEP 394]. We don't

Re: Renaming python to python2

2016-09-01 Thread Avram Lubkin
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > Sure, but those scripts may not actually work because modules that are > supposed to be there, aren't. For example, if you depend on a > non-standard lib module, then that means it needs to be installed for > each python

Re: Renaming python to python2

2016-09-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Avram Lubkin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> >> Alternatives doesn't work in this case because Python 2.x and Python >> 3.x versions don't share resources, even with minor versions of the >>

Re: Renaming python to python2

2016-09-01 Thread Avram Lubkin
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > Alternatives doesn't work in this case because Python 2.x and Python > 3.x versions don't share resources, even with minor versions of the > same series. Enabling alternatives for it is a recipe for disaster. > Could you

Re: Renaming python to python2

2016-09-01 Thread Avram Lubkin
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > The ideal point we'd like to get to is one where all distro provided > scripts actually have the appropriate major version in their shebang > lines, and the unqualifed "python" is something along the lines of a >

Re: Renaming python to python2

2016-09-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 31 August 2016 at 23:54, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: > Hello Python-SIG, > > Currently I am working on some ideas regarding the python package. > > Nothing is too concrete yet, however the technical side should be fairly > simple. > > The first thing is renaming python