Re: [Python-ideas] Logical tracebacks

2019-04-15 Thread Anders Hovmöller
> On 15 Apr 2019, at 22:07, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > However, there are many contexts where implementation details would > benefit from being hidden from tracebacks (the classical example being > the internals of framework or middleware code, such as Django, Dask, > etc.). We would therefore

Re: [Python-ideas] Logical tracebacks

2019-04-15 Thread Terry Reedy
On 4/15/2019 4:07 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Hello, I apologize because I'm only going to throw a very vague idea and I don't currently have time or motivation to explore it myself. But I think it may prove interesting for other people and perhaps spur some concrete actionable proposal. With t

Re: [Python-ideas] Logical tracebacks

2019-04-15 Thread Andre Roberge
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 5:07 PM Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > Hello, > > I apologize because I'm only going to throw a very vague idea and I > don't currently have time or motivation to explore it myself. But I > think it may prove interesting for other people and perhaps spur some > concrete action

Re: [Python-ideas] Logical tracebacks

2019-04-15 Thread Nathan Goldbaum
This is a really great idea. I’d also point to the awful hacks that jinja2 needs to go through to elide jinia2 frames from user tracebacks as an indicator that this is a desired feature. https://github.com/pallets/jinja/blob/master/jinja2/debug.py On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:08 PM Antoine Pitrou w

Re: [Python-ideas] Logical tracebacks

2019-04-15 Thread Christian Heimes
On 15/04/2019 22.07, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > Hello, > > I apologize because I'm only going to throw a very vague idea and I > don't currently have time or motivation to explore it myself. But I > think it may prove interesting for other people and perhaps spur some > concrete actionable propos

[Python-ideas] Logical tracebacks

2019-04-15 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Hello, I apologize because I'm only going to throw a very vague idea and I don't currently have time or motivation to explore it myself. But I think it may prove interesting for other people and perhaps spur some concrete actionable proposal. With the growing complexity of Python software stac