Re: [Python-ideas] Method signature syntactic sugar (especially for dunder methods)

Also you can support future changes to the syntax (e.g. __matmul__ and friends from 3.5, __aiter__ from 3.5.2) with a single codebase rather than having to push that grammar back to previous versions (impossible?) or have the grammar for magic methods be extraordinarily general (messy?) On Tue,

Re: [Python-ideas] Method signature syntactic sugar (especially for dunder methods)

Another advantage of dunder method names is that you can google them. Someone coming across a method called "__foo__" can easily find documentation about it, but it's not so easy to do that for special syntax. -- Greg ___ Python-ideas mailing list

Re: [Python-ideas] Method signature syntactic sugar (especially for dunder methods)

I think that the most important simple thing with dunder/magic methods is name mangling, and that an abstraction like your proposed one makes it less clear what will happen to a name. Also, as Nick Coghlan pointed out, there are a lot of dunder/magic methods

Re: [Python-ideas] Method signature syntactic sugar (especially for dunder methods)

Nathan Dunn writes: > > * the mapping protocol covers more than just __getitem__ > > __setitem__(self, key, value) could bedef self[key] = value > likewise > __delitem__(self, key) def del self[key]: > __iter__(self) iter(self) >

Re: [Python-ideas] Method signature syntactic sugar (especially for dunder methods)

On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 01:28:34AM -0500, Nathan Dunn wrote: > Python has very intuitive and clear syntax, except when it comes to method > definitions, particularly dunder methods. I disagree with your premise here. Python's method definitions are just as intuitive and clear as the rest of

Re: [Python-ideas] Method signature syntactic sugar (especially for dunder methods)

On 6 November 2016 at 16:28, Nathan Dunn wrote: > There are some immediate problems with this, such as `bool(self)` being > indistinguishable from a regular method signature and `class(x, y)` not > declaring the `self` identifier. These and other problems can be solved to >

[Python-ideas] Method signature syntactic sugar (especially for dunder methods)

Python has very intuitive and clear syntax, except when it comes to method definitions, particularly dunder methods. class Vec(object): def __init__(self, x, y): self.x, self.y = x, y def __add__(self, other): return Vec(self.x + other.x, self.y + other.y) def