[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

Issue raised as bpo-37556 & a PR as #14701 Steve Barnes From: Brett Cannon Sent: 10 July 2019 22:06 To: Steve Barnes Cc: Python-Ideas Subject: Re: [Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default I'll also mention it's covered in the official

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

On 7/10/19, Brendan Barnwell wrote: > > I agree that it seems the real problem here is the lack of a real way > to determine if an available version is a real release or a > prerelease/beta. Is it not possible to change that, so that it is > possible for the launcher to quickly and easily

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

Barnes mailto:gadgetst...@live.co.uk>> > Cc: Python-Ideas mailto:python-ideas@python.org>> > Subject: Re: [Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not > using pre-releases by default > > Based on the various responses I've seen, one thing I want to mak

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 1:58 PM Brendan Barnwell wrote: > On 2019-07-09 23:23, Alex Walters wrote: > > I have made this suggestion in the past. The response then was that > there > > is no metadata in the windows install that includes if the release is > > development or stable (that

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

>> >> >> >> *From:* Brett Cannon >> *Sent:* 10 July 2019 18:41 >> *To:* Steve Barnes >> *Cc:* Python-Ideas >> *Subject:* Re: [Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default >> to not using pre-releases by default >> >> >

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

/HELP.txt. > > > Steve > > > > *From:* Brett Cannon > *Sent:* 10 July 2019 18:41 > *To:* Steve Barnes > *Cc:* Python-Ideas > *Subject:* Re: [Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to > not using pre-releases by default > > > > Based o

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

On 2019-07-09 23:23, Alex Walters wrote: I have made this suggestion in the past. The response then was that there is no metadata in the windows install that includes if the release is development or stable (that information is not stored in the registry). I was advised to adjust my

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

: [Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default Based on the various responses I've seen, one thing I want to make very clear is the launcher needs to be fast. That means no executing Python code, minimizing stat calls, etc. Also be aware that I'm

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

s). > > -Original Message- > From: Alex Walters > Sent: 10 July 2019 07:23 > To: 'Steve Barnes' ; 'Python-Ideas' < > python-ideas@python.org> > Subject: RE: [Python-ideas] Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not > using pre-releases by default > > I have ma

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

On 7/9/19, Steve Barnes wrote: > > Currently the py[w] command will launch the latest python by default however > I feel that this discourages the testing of pre-releases & release > candidates as once they are installed they will become the default. What I > would like is for the default to be

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

fast & future proof (addressing Ben's concerns). -Original Message- From: Alex Walters Sent: 10 July 2019 07:23 To: 'Steve Barnes' ; 'Python-Ideas' Subject: RE: [Python-ideas] Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default I have made this suggestion in

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

I have made this suggestion in the past. The response then was that there is no metadata in the windows install that includes if the release is development or stable (that information is not stored in the registry). I was advised to adjust my configuration of the py.exe launcher to set a

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 8:04 PM MRAB wrote: > When you start Python, it reports its version. How discoverable is that > version for the launcher, and for tools in general? `python -V` will print a simple version string and exit, like this example using an executable compiled from the 3.8 git

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

On 2019-07-09 22:46, Brett Cannon wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 10:39 PM Steve Barnes > wrote: Currently the py[w] command will launch the latest python by default however I feel that this discourages the testing of pre-releases & release candidates

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

On Jul 9, 2019, at 16:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > > What about flipping that around - when you install, have an option to > say "make this the default" (active by default), and if you untick it, > it flags the installation as "not the default"? Available only if > there's an existing default.

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 7:48 AM Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 10:39 PM Steve Barnes wrote: >> >> Currently the py[w] command will launch the latest python by default however >> I feel that this discourages the testing of pre-releases & release >> candidates as once they

[Python-ideas] Re: Suggestion: Windows launcher default to not using pre-releases by default

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 10:39 PM Steve Barnes wrote: > Currently the py[w] command will launch the latest python by default > however I feel that this discourages the testing of pre-releases & release > candidates as once they are installed they will become the default. What I > would like is for