On 22 August 2017 at 15:34, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 21 August 2017 at 11:32, Neil Girdhar wrote:
>> This question describes an example of the problem:
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8416208/in-python-is-there-a-good-idiom-for-using-context-managers-in-setup-teardown.
>> You want to invok
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> Folks, this has come up before, but: please don't post through Google
> Groups, as it breaks everyone else's ability to easily reply to the
> entire mailing list.
>
Mentioning this is probably going to do nothing, especially for new, future
** Caution: cranky curmudgeonly opinionated comment ahead: **
unitest is such an ugly Java-esque static mess of an API that there's
really no point in trying to clean it up and make it more pythonic -- go
off and use pytest and be happier.
-CHB
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:42 AM, Nick Coghlan w
TBH you're completely right. Every time I see someone using unittest
andItsHorriblyUnpythonicNames, I want to kill a camel.
Sometimes, though, I feel like part of the struggle is the alternative. If
you dislike unittest, but pytest is too "magical" for you, what do you use?
Many Python testing too
Knowing nothing about the JavaScript ecosystem (other than that leftpad is
apparently not a joke and everything needs more jQuery), what are the
leagues-above testing libraries?
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:20 PM, rym...@gmail.com wrote:
> TBH you're completely right. Every time I see someone using
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 06:20:50PM -0400, rym...@gmail.com wrote:
> TBH you're completely right. Every time I see someone using unittest
> andItsHorriblyUnpythonicNames, I want to kill a camel.
If your only complaint about unittest is that
you_miss_writing_underscores_between_all_the_words, then
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Chris Barker wrote:
> anyway, that's enough ranting.
>
Got carried away with the ranting, and didn't flesh out my point.
My point is that unittest is a very static, not very pythonic framework --
if you are productive with it, great, but I don't think it's w
Getting kind of OT, but:
... pytest is too "magical" for you,
>
I do get confused a bit sometimes, but for the most part, I simple don't
use the magic -- pytest does a great job of making the simple things simple.
what do you use? Many Python testing tools like nose are just test
> *runners*, s
Like you, I used nose and then switched to pytest. The reason I proposed
this for unittest is because pytest and nose and (I think) most of the
other testing frameworks inherit from unittest, so improving unittest has
downstream benefits. I may nevertheless propose this to the pytest people
if th
