Re: [Python-ideas] Moving to another forum system where

2018-09-19 Thread Anders Hovmöller
> Even so, there are mitigations to the firehose effect, including, but not > limited to digests I accidentally signed up with divest turned on for this list first. I got five digests in so many hours and I couldn’t figure out how to respond to individual threads. It’s a terrible choice and

Re: [Python-ideas] Moving to another forum system where

2018-09-19 Thread Mikhail V
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 7:49 AM Franklin? Lee wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:21 PM James Lu wrote: > > > > > Is that really an issue here? I personally haven't seen threads where > > > Brett tried to stop an active discussion, but people ignored him and > > > kept fighting. > > Not

Re: [Python-ideas] Moving to another forum system where

2018-09-19 Thread Hans Polak
Just an observation. I've been a member of this mailing list since (literally) five days ago and I am receiving a busload of emails. I'm a member of Stackoverflow and I visit the Q site daily... and I hardly ever receive emails. I suspect Discourse would be a good match for these discussions

Re: [Python-ideas] Moving to another forum system where

2018-09-19 Thread James Lu
> > Most of the real decisions are actually taken > outside of it, with more direct channels in the small groups of > contributors. > It would be very nice if there was more transparency in this process. The language is better if more subjective personal experience heard- but to make that happen,

Re: [Python-ideas] Moving to another forum system where

2018-09-19 Thread James Lu
Oh wow, Google Groups is actually a much better interface. Any better forum software needs a system where people can voluntarily leave comments or feedback that is lower-priority. I'm not sure if Discourse has this, actually. Reddit comments are extremely compact as are Stack Overflow comments.

Re: [Python-ideas] Moving to another forum system where

2018-09-19 Thread Michel Desmoulin
Le 19/09/2018 à 15:28, Chris Angelico a écrit : > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:23 PM Michel Desmoulin > wrote: >> - A is telling B this is a bad idea. It should be easy to tell if the >> person is experienced or not. You probably don't want to interact the >> same way with Victor and Yury, that

Re: [Python-ideas] Moving to another forum system where

2018-09-19 Thread Michel Desmoulin
Le 19/09/2018 à 00:37, James Lu a écrit : >> Is that really an issue here? I personally haven't seen threads where >> Brett tried to stop an active discussion, but people ignored him and >> kept fighting. > Not personally with Brett, but I have seen multiple people try to stop the > “reword or

Re: [Python-ideas] Moving to another forum system where

2018-09-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:37:09 -0400 James Lu wrote: > * The mailing list is frankly obscure. Python community leaders and package > maintainers often are not aware or do not participate in Python-ideas. Not > many people know how to use or navigate a mailing list. > * No one really promotes

Re: [Python-ideas] Combine f-strings with i18n - How about using PEP 501?

2018-09-19 Thread Anders Hovmöller
>> I'd suggest using parso to do it. It's a really great library to write such >> transformations. > > Ah. It wasn't clear what your destination was, so I thought you were > talking about doing the translation itself using parso. But yeah, grab > one of these sorts of parsing libraries, do the

Re: [Python-ideas] Combine f-strings with i18n - How about using PEP 501?

2018-09-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 4:52 PM Anders Hovmöller wrote: > > > > How about this: Have a script that runs over your code, looking for > > "translatable f-strings": > > > > _(f'Hi {user}') > > > > and replaces them with actually-translatable strings: > > > > _('Hi %s') % (user,) > > _('Hi

Re: [Python-ideas] Combine f-strings with i18n - How about using PEP 501?

2018-09-19 Thread Anders Hovmöller
> How about this: Have a script that runs over your code, looking for > "translatable f-strings": > > _(f'Hi {user}') > > and replaces them with actually-translatable strings: > > _('Hi %s') % (user,) > _('Hi {user}').format(user=user) > > Take your pick of which way you want to spell it.

Re: [Python-ideas] Combine f-strings with i18n - How about using PEP 501?

2018-09-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 3:55 PM Steve Barnes wrote: > Surely the simpler solution is to specify in I18n any items within > un-escaped {} pairs is excluded from the translation, lookups, etc., and > that translation needs to take place, also leaving the {} content alone, > before f string

Re: [Python-ideas] Pattern Matching Syntax (reprise)

2018-09-19 Thread Patrick Vergain
Le mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 13:39, Tobias Kohn a écrit : > Hello Everyone, > > Please excuse my being late for properly responding to the last thread on > "Pattern Matching Syntax" [1]. As Robert Roskam has already pointed out at > the beginning of that thread, there has been much previous