Re: [Python-ideas] Retire or reword the namesake of the Language
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 22:06:28 -0400 "Franklin? Lee" wrote: > Monty Python had the goal of making people laugh, while python-ideas > has the goal of improving Python. With those priorities, we can have > fun, but not at the expense of potential contributions and > contributors. You are right. Regards Antoine. ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
Re: [Python-ideas] Retire or reword the namesake of the Language
Monty Python had the goal of making people laugh, while python-ideas has the goal of improving Python. With those priorities, we can have fun, but not at the expense of potential contributions and contributors. Other people aren't perfect, but sometimes you have to adapt to them for the sake of other goals. It may be easier if you think of it as writing a nasty workaround to an unmaintained or wontfix API, or, back in the 00's, doing anything at all to make a site work on Internet Explorer. On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:39 AM Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > It's not like the Monty Python (whom the language was named after) > would have dared mocking the discourse and manners of all kinds of > social groups, let alone have a laugh at the expense of beliefs and > ideologies. > > Regards > > Antoine. > > On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 08:25:27 -0400 > Calvin Spealman > wrote: > > I am very disappointed in the existence of this thread. Mocking discourse > > is extremely unpythonic. ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
Re: [Python-ideas] Retire or reword the namesake of the Language
This proposal unfortunately carries the risk of reminding people of "CORBA", a technology that was once regarded as the highest pinnacle of the development of distributed systems, before it was sidelined by XMLRPC, then SOAP, then Docker containers exchanging Protobuf messages over WebSockets. My two cents (at being gently sarcastic). S. On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 12:14 PM Widom PsychoPath wrote: > Guten Tag, > > I am Jack and I am grateful to see the efficiency of scientific > computing in Python. > > However, What deeply saddens me is that the namesake "Python" has > unfortunately been derived from the title of the uncivilised British > jester troupe "Monty Python". This is something that deeply infuriates > me and is against the morals of my culture. Although humor is an > integral aspect of the life of an Untermensch, I believe that Python, > A language used as an interface to majority of Scientific computing > software should be renamed to something more suitable. > > I hereby propose that the Language should be renamed to Cobra, after > the brilliant military strategist Cobra Commander , who has been > history's most efficient and brilliant strategist. > > I hope that my message is not mistaken for an attempt to humor. I am > physically unable to experience the same. Please revert back to the > mail with your thoughts and constructive criticism. > > Yours forever, > Jack Daniels > ___ > Python-ideas mailing list > Python-ideas@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > -- Stefane Fermigier - http://fermigier.com/ - http://twitter.com/sfermigier - http://linkedin.com/in/sfermigier Founder & CEO, Abilian - Enterprise Social Software - http://www.abilian.com/ Chairman, Free Group @ Systematic Cluster - http://www.gt-logiciel-libre.org/ Co-Chairman, National Council for Free & Open Source Software (CNLL) - http://cnll.fr/ Founder & Organiser, PyParis & PyData Paris - http://pyparis.org/ & http://pydata.fr/ ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
Re: [Python-ideas] Retire or reword the namesake of the Language
It's not like the Monty Python (whom the language was named after) would have dared mocking the discourse and manners of all kinds of social groups, let alone have a laugh at the expense of beliefs and ideologies. Regards Antoine. On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 08:25:27 -0400 Calvin Spealman wrote: > I am very disappointed in the existence of this thread. Mocking discourse > is extremely unpythonic. > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 2:54 AM Jacco van Dorp wrote: > > > Yeah, sounds about as sensible as the recent "ban ugly" campaign. > > +1. > > > > Op zo 16 sep. 2018 om 15:49 schreef Wes Turner : > > > >> Anyways, speaking of dragons, here are some ideas for new logos: > >> > >> "Strong Bad Email #58: Dragon" > >> https://youtu.be/90X5NJleYJQ > >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python > >> > >> On Sunday, September 16, 2018, Wes Turner wrote: > >> > >>> There's already a thing named Cobra. > >>> > >>> https://github.com/opencobra/cobrapy > >>> > >>> > >>> "Python (mythology)" > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(mythology) > >>> ... Serpent/Dragon guarding the omphalos. > >>> > >>> "Ouroboros" > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros > >>> > >>> > >>> Monty Python themed Python language things: > >>> > >>> - The Cheese Shop > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_Shop_sketch > >>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/CheeseShop > >>> https://pypi.org/ > >>> > >>> - The Knights Who Say Ni -- > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Who_Say_Ni > >>> https://github.com/python/the-knights-who-say-ni > >>> > >>> - Miss Islington > >>> https://github.com/python/miss-islington > >>> > >>> On Sunday, September 16, 2018, Chris Angelico wrote: > >>> > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 8:14 PM, Widom PsychoPath > wrote: > > I hereby propose that the Language should be renamed to Cobra, after > > the brilliant military strategist Cobra Commander , who has been > > history's most efficient and brilliant strategist. > > > > Yours forever, > > Jack Daniels > > Now THAT is the *true* spirit of professionalism. Here we have proof > that the scientific community cares about the language. > > About 80 proof, I think. > > ChrisA > ___ > Python-ideas mailing list > Python-ideas@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > > >>> ___ > >> Python-ideas mailing list > >> Python-ideas@python.org > >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > >> Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > >> > > ___ > > Python-ideas mailing list > > Python-ideas@python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > > > ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
Re: [Python-ideas] Retire or reword the namesake of the Language
I am very disappointed in the existence of this thread. Mocking discourse is extremely unpythonic. On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 2:54 AM Jacco van Dorp wrote: > Yeah, sounds about as sensible as the recent "ban ugly" campaign. > +1. > > Op zo 16 sep. 2018 om 15:49 schreef Wes Turner : > >> Anyways, speaking of dragons, here are some ideas for new logos: >> >> "Strong Bad Email #58: Dragon" >> https://youtu.be/90X5NJleYJQ >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python >> >> On Sunday, September 16, 2018, Wes Turner wrote: >> >>> There's already a thing named Cobra. >>> >>> https://github.com/opencobra/cobrapy >>> >>> >>> "Python (mythology)" >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(mythology) >>> ... Serpent/Dragon guarding the omphalos. >>> >>> "Ouroboros" >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros >>> >>> >>> Monty Python themed Python language things: >>> >>> - The Cheese Shop >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_Shop_sketch >>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/CheeseShop >>> https://pypi.org/ >>> >>> - The Knights Who Say Ni -- >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Who_Say_Ni >>> https://github.com/python/the-knights-who-say-ni >>> >>> - Miss Islington >>> https://github.com/python/miss-islington >>> >>> On Sunday, September 16, 2018, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 8:14 PM, Widom PsychoPath wrote: > I hereby propose that the Language should be renamed to Cobra, after > the brilliant military strategist Cobra Commander , who has been > history's most efficient and brilliant strategist. > > Yours forever, > Jack Daniels Now THAT is the *true* spirit of professionalism. Here we have proof that the scientific community cares about the language. About 80 proof, I think. ChrisA ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >>> ___ >> Python-ideas mailing list >> Python-ideas@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas >> Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >> > ___ > Python-ideas mailing list > Python-ideas@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
Re: [Python-ideas] Retire or reword the namesake of the Language
Yeah, sounds about as sensible as the recent "ban ugly" campaign. +1. Op zo 16 sep. 2018 om 15:49 schreef Wes Turner : > Anyways, speaking of dragons, here are some ideas for new logos: > > "Strong Bad Email #58: Dragon" > https://youtu.be/90X5NJleYJQ > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python > > On Sunday, September 16, 2018, Wes Turner wrote: > >> There's already a thing named Cobra. >> >> https://github.com/opencobra/cobrapy >> >> >> "Python (mythology)" >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(mythology) >> ... Serpent/Dragon guarding the omphalos. >> >> "Ouroboros" >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros >> >> >> Monty Python themed Python language things: >> >> - The Cheese Shop >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_Shop_sketch >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/CheeseShop >> https://pypi.org/ >> >> - The Knights Who Say Ni -- >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Who_Say_Ni >> https://github.com/python/the-knights-who-say-ni >> >> - Miss Islington >> https://github.com/python/miss-islington >> >> On Sunday, September 16, 2018, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 8:14 PM, Widom PsychoPath >>> wrote: >>> > I hereby propose that the Language should be renamed to Cobra, after >>> > the brilliant military strategist Cobra Commander , who has been >>> > history's most efficient and brilliant strategist. >>> > >>> > Yours forever, >>> > Jack Daniels >>> >>> Now THAT is the *true* spirit of professionalism. Here we have proof >>> that the scientific community cares about the language. >>> >>> About 80 proof, I think. >>> >>> ChrisA >>> ___ >>> Python-ideas mailing list >>> Python-ideas@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas >>> Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >>> >> ___ > Python-ideas mailing list > Python-ideas@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
Re: [Python-ideas] Retire or reword the namesake of the Language
There's already a thing named Cobra. https://github.com/opencobra/cobrapy "Python (mythology)" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(mythology) ... Serpent/Dragon guarding the omphalos. "Ouroboros" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros Monty Python themed Python language things: - The Cheese Shop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_Shop_sketch https://wiki.python.org/moin/CheeseShop https://pypi.org/ - The Knights Who Say Ni -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Who_Say_Ni https://github.com/python/the-knights-who-say-ni - Miss Islington https://github.com/python/miss-islington On Sunday, September 16, 2018, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 8:14 PM, Widom PsychoPath > wrote: > > I hereby propose that the Language should be renamed to Cobra, after > > the brilliant military strategist Cobra Commander , who has been > > history's most efficient and brilliant strategist. > > > > Yours forever, > > Jack Daniels > > Now THAT is the *true* spirit of professionalism. Here we have proof > that the scientific community cares about the language. > > About 80 proof, I think. > > ChrisA > ___ > Python-ideas mailing list > Python-ideas@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
Re: [Python-ideas] Retire or reword the namesake of the Language
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 8:14 PM, Widom PsychoPath wrote: > I hereby propose that the Language should be renamed to Cobra, after > the brilliant military strategist Cobra Commander , who has been > history's most efficient and brilliant strategist. > > Yours forever, > Jack Daniels Now THAT is the *true* spirit of professionalism. Here we have proof that the scientific community cares about the language. About 80 proof, I think. ChrisA ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
