Title: PyAr - Python Argentina 5th Meeting, tomorrow Thursday, Decimal talk included
The Argentinian Python User Group, PyAr, will have its fifth
meeting this Thursday, January 13th at 7:00pm. Please see
http://pyar.decode.com.ar/Wiki/ProximaReunion for details (in
Spanish.)
Agenda
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I'm proud to release this 8th major feature release of Roundup. This is
currently a DEVELOPMENT release, meaning it probably has bugs. If you
want
a STABLE release, use 0.7.x
First up, big thanks go to alexander smishlajev who has done some really
good work getting the i18n and new configuration
Op 2005-01-12, It's me schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Precisely. One have to convert complex number into vectors, and vector of
complex numbers into vector of vectors, list of complex numbers into list of
vectors, , you get the idea.
Wrong. My vector example was an illustration that you can
Stephen Thorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12 Jan 2005 16:21:29 -0800, PJDM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe P3K will have an integer literal like n_b for the integer n in
base b.
I would actually like to see pychecker pick up conceptual errors like this:
import datetime
datetime.datetime(2005,
Op 2005-01-12, Steve Holden schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Given that Guido is on record as saying that expressions aren't
statements because he wants those things to be separate, I don't really
see why there's this consistent pressure to reverse that decision.
Well, it seems that Guido is
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:51:46 +1000, Stephen Thorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12 Jan 2005 22:36:54 -0800, yaipa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What would be the common sense way of finding a binary pattern in a
.bin file, say some 200 bytes, and replacing it with an updated pattern
of the same
Because you can't take the len() of an integer. Try casting a as a str:
b=(1,len(str(a)))[isinstance(a,(list,tuple,dict))]
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From: It's me [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:35 PM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Why would I get a
Roman Suzi wrote:
-Realying on ides is imposible due to python dinamic nature,very litle(next
to nothing) assistance can be espected from them.
Class browsing and auto-completion are probably the only features
I sometime miss. But otherwise what IDEs are for?
Refactoring? You got to admit,
Simon Wittber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've noticed that a few ASPN cookbook recipes, which are recent
additions, use classic classes.
I've also noticed classic classes are used in many places in the
standard library.
I've been using new-style classes since Python 2.2, and am suprised
people
Stephen Thorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why not use a regexp based approach.
Good idea... You could also use sre.Scanner which is supposed to be
fast like this...
import re, sre
scanner = sre.Scanner([
(r\.php$, application/x-php),
(r\.(cc|cpp)$, text/x-c++-src),
(r\.xsl$, xsl),
Note that I used 'c = C()' instead of 'c = C' as in your code.
Hello,
thanks that was the problem. *hmpf* :-)
Michael
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:05:39 +1000, Egor Bolonev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen Thorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] /
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:55:10 +1000, Egor Bolonev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how to get rid of 'for' operator in the code?
import os, os.path
def
Steve Holden wrote:
Nick Coghlan wrote:
Luis M. Gonzalez wrote:
Hi there,
I'd like to know if there is a way to add and else condition into a
list comprehension. I'm sure that I read somewhere an easy way to do
it, but I forgot it and now I can't find it...
for example:
z=[i+2 for i in range(10)
greetings. it seems that the attribute site.here, of the site module,
has vanished in python 2.4. up until python 2.3, site.here seemed (to
me at least) a convenient way to get the complete path to the python
library on any platform:
import site
site.here
Op 2005-01-12, Jeff Shannon schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Torsten Mohr wrote:
I still wonder why a concept like references was not
implemented in Python. I think it is (even if small)
an overhead to wrap an object in a list or a dictionary.
Because Python uses a fundamentally different
ariza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
greetings. it seems that the attribute site.here, of the site module,
has vanished in python 2.4. up until python 2.3, site.here seemed (to
me at least) a convenient way to get the complete path to the python
library on any platform.
here was a temporary
Thanks for the help Chris. I tried the -E option, and also installing as
root with no change - the scripts in the bin directory still end up with
#!None on the first line. Next step is to reinstall Python 2.4, and if
that doesn't work I'll just stick with 2.3.4.
Cheers,
Cory.
Christopher De
Antoon Pardon wrote:
Well, it seems that Guido is wrong then. The documentation clearly
states that an expression is a statement.
no, it says that an expression statement is a statement. if you don't
understand the difference, please *plonk* yourself.
/F
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I have some code, which makes copious use of the @decorator syntax
which was introduced in Python2.4. Now I find myself in a situation
where I have to run the code under Python 2.3. However, I would like
to keep developing the code with the new syntax.
How could I best automate the process of
# here's a while statement in python.
a,b = 0,1
while b 20:
print b
a,b = b,a+b
---
# here's the same code in perl
($a,$b)=(0,1);
while ($b20) {
print $b, \n;
($a,$b)= ($b, $a+$b);
}
Xah
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Jacek Generowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have some code, which makes copious use of the @decorator syntax
which was introduced in Python2.4. Now I find myself in a situation
where I have to run the code under Python 2.3. However, I would like
to keep developing the code with the new
why functions created with lambda forms cannot contain statements?
how to get unnamed function with statements?
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i am not sure where i found site.here documented as used prior to 2.4.
the issue is that i do not need sys.path, as in the list of all paths
that python searches. sys.prefix is close to what i need:
sys.prefix
'/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3'
but the old site.here
I am trying to add a caption or title to the box drawn around a
checklistbox and having no luck. Is there a way to do this?
I am using python 2.3.4 and wxPython 2.5 on a windows platform.
Noel
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Op 2005-01-13, Fredrik Lundh schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Antoon Pardon wrote:
Well, it seems that Guido is wrong then. The documentation clearly
states that an expression is a statement.
no, it says that an expression statement is a statement. if you don't
understand the difference, please
Xah Lee wrote:
# here's a while statement in python.
[...]
# here's the same code in perl
[...]
So?
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:18:17 -0500, Istvan Albert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
vegetax wrote:
previus two python proyects where relatively big,and python didnt feel
well suited for the task.
One typical problem that others might talk about in more detail
is that you might be writing java code in
Because if it takes more than a single line it deserves a name. Also,
if you have more than one line in this function, how do you plan to
reference it if not by name?
Tim
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:53:09 +1000, Egor Bolonev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
why functions created with lambda forms cannot
Hello.
I need an account no free python server.
Would somebody help me?
I tried to find one no www.python.org [there are few addresses of
free hosts] but unfortunately can't manage with the registration.
Best Regards
Rootshell
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Egor Bolonev wrote:
why functions created with lambda forms cannot contain statements?
syntax/technical answer: because lambda is an expression and it is not
obvious how the syntax for 'statement inside expression' should be
'Python is perfect' answer: if a function contains more than an
I am a bit confused. I was under the impression that:
class foo(object):
x = 0
y = 1
means that x and y are variables shared by all instances of a class.
But when I run this against two instances of foo, and set the values
of x and y, they are indeed unique to the *instance*
Hi,
It seems to me that it's not possible with the pickle module
to serialize a class rather than an instance, as in
from pickle import *
class C(object):
... doc ...
a = 1
pickstr = dumps(C)
I mean, it does *something*, there is no error indeed, but
from the string pickstr, I
Hi !
Server, web ?
Files server ?
Web-services server ?
XML-RPC server ?
Mail-server ?
Newsgroups server ?
SGBD server ?
Object server ?
Persistance server ?
Restaurant server ?
or ALL ?
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On 13 Jan 2005 07:18:26 EST, Tim Daneliuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am a bit confused. I was under the impression that:
class foo(object):
x = 0
y = 1
means that x and y are variables shared by all instances of a class.
But when I run this against two instances of foo,
Hi Tim,
If you have
class Foo(object) :
x = 0
y = 1
foo = Foo()
foo.x # reads either instance or class attribute (class in this case)
foo.x = val # sets an instance attribute (because foo is instance not
class)
Foo.x = val # sets a class attribute
foo.__class.__x = val
engsol wrote:
Has anyone done a script that will rspond to the serial com port(s)
receive buffer interrupt, as opposed to polling and timeouts?
Win2000 is the main interest right now.
Thanks
Norm B
Hello,
I came across this problem as when I first used PySerial, I
came from a java
morphex wrote:
Hi all,
I'm trying to create a script that will superimpose text on an image.
I didn't find any great examples out there on how this can be done (I
presume using PIL is necessary), do you know of any examples?
Thanks,
Morten
Hi,
something like this?
###
from PIL import Image,
i'm using groups-beta.google.com to post python code.
Is there a way to stop google from messing with my format? it seems to
have eaten the spaces in my python code.
thanks.
Xah
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have a look at the thread copying classes? some days ago.
what goes for copying goes for pickling also, because the
modules use the same interface.
- harold -
On 13.01.2005, at 13:32, Sebastien Boisgerault wrote:
Hi,
It seems to me that it's not possible with the pickle module
to serialize a class
Whenever I run python I get
Warning! you are running an untested version of Python.
prepended to the start of any output on stdout.
This is with Debian and python 2.3 (running the debian 2.1 and 2.2 binaries
doesn't have this effect)
Does anyone have any idea how to stop this or have even seen
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Xah Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i'm using groups-beta.google.com to post python code.
Is there a way to stop google from messing with my format? it seems to
have eaten the spaces in my python code.
It does that when you cross-post.
Just
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I understand you want to do it in an applicative programming style?
Not recommended in general. But here goes:
.# c.l.p. question:
.# using map, lambda, reduce, filter and List Comprehensions [x for
.# x in []] just don't get how to add string to all elements of list
.
.##
.# A function that
Hi there.
What I need is web sever, where I could put just one python script.
Greetings.
Rootshell.
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On Jan 13, 2005, at 5:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to add a caption or title to the box drawn around a
checklistbox and having no luck. Is there a way to do this?
I am using python 2.3.4 and wxPython 2.5 on a windows platform.
I don't think you can do it directly. What you might
Xah Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
# here's a while statement in python.
a,b = 0,1
while b 20:
print b
a,b = b,a+b
---
# here's the same code in perl
($a,$b)=(0,1);
while ($b20) {
print $b, \n;
($a,$b)= ($b, $a+$b);
}
That python code produces a syntax error:
File
I am using Redhat 9.0/python2.3. I installed pyPgSQL-2.4.tar.gz and it
was successfull. Now when I am trying to import that module, I got:
Python 2.3.3 (#1, Jan 11 2005, 15:24:09)
[GCC 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-5)] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
Thomas Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jacek Generowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have some code, which makes copious use of the @decorator syntax
which was introduced in Python2.4. Now I find myself in a situation
where I have to run the code under Python 2.3. However, I would like
Jane wrote:
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python.org = 194.109.137.226
194 + 109 + 137 + 226 = 666
What is this website with such a demonic name and IP address? What
evils are the programmers who use this language up to?
Some people have too much time on their hands...
My example is somewhat flawed because it assigns a and b the values of the
iteration - so in the end, b is 'c', and only setting a to [1,2] will show
your results.
Use c and d for the variables in the for-statments, and things work as
expected.
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Neil Benn wrote:
engsol wrote:
Has anyone done a script that will rspond to the serial com port(s)
receive buffer interrupt, as opposed to polling and timeouts? Win2000
is the main interest right now.
Thanks
Norm B
Hello,
I came across this problem as when I first used PySerial, I
Hi all
Can anybody help me find a module or a function that
looks in a directory and defines whether the objects
in there are files or directories?
Thanks,
Sara
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On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 12:56:38PM -, Alex Stapleton wrote:
Whenever I run python I get
Warning! you are running an untested version of Python.
prepended to the start of any output on stdout. [...]
ROFL. Are you using testing, sid or experimental? I expect overzealous
patching from
Op 2005-01-13, Simon Brunning schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 13 Jan 2005 07:18:26 EST, Tim Daneliuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am a bit confused. I was under the impression that:
class foo(object):
x = 0
y = 1
means that x and y are variables shared by all instances of a
On Jan 13, 2005, at 12:04 AM, vincent wehren wrote:
Just a guess: What happens if you remove everything that's in the
build directory before running setup.py? There may still be files
around from an earlier build that *did* include the Dabo modules.
Ah, that was it! I didn't realize that it
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:51:22 -0800 (PST), Sara Fwd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all
Can anybody help me find a module or a function that
looks in a directory and defines whether the objects
in there are files or directories?
See os.path.isfile() and os.path.isdir() -
engsol wrote:
I'm working on a s/w test program using python
code. Com1 and com2 play a part. The problem is that the python code
has a lot of work to do...and the results from the hardware under test can
come from either com1 or com2...at any time. It may be a few milliseconds,
or several
Josh The datetime is full of these calls. Would it make sense to make
Josh this a separate patch? (Or maybe the PyImport_ImportModule could
Josh implement such a cache :) ?)
Hmmm... I wonder why that wasn't done before. Perhaps it just doesn't
matter performance-wise. I just
Op 2005-01-13, Tim Leslie schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Because if it takes more than a single line it deserves a name.
So if I have a call with an expression that takes more than
one line, I should assign the expression to a variable and
use the variable in the call?
But wait if I do that, people
Op 2005-01-13, harold fellermann schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Tim,
If you have
class Foo(object) :
x = 0
y = 1
foo = Foo()
foo.x # reads either instance or class attribute (class in this case)
foo.x = val # sets an instance attribute (because foo is instance not
class)
Peter Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Have a look at Bill Mill's redecorate utility:
http://llimllib.f2o.org/files/redecorate.py
Heh, this is exactly the sort of thing I wanted do avoid writing, as
it would be difficult to get right. Looks like it's author has similar
feelings. However, it
Paul Rubin wrote:
Simon Wittber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is there a reason NOT to use them? If a classic class works fine, what
incentive is there to switch to new style classes?
Perhaps classic classes will eventually disappear?
It just means that the formerly classic syntax will define a
Peter Hansen wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In Mythical Future Python I would like to be able to use any base
in
integer literals, which would be better. Example random syntax:
flags= 2x00011010101001
umask= 8x664
answer= 10x42
addr= 16x0E84 # 16x == 0x
gunk= 36x8H6Z9A0X
I
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Peter Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, if we should follow the recent advice about always using
super() in the __init__ method, it's hard to do what you suggest
(though it sounds like good advice) without resorting to extreme
ugliness:
class
Unfortunately, if we should follow the recent advice about
always using super() in the __init__ method, it's hard
to do what you suggest (though it sounds like good advice)
without resorting to extreme ugliness:
'import this' also provides some good advice:
There should be one-- and
Simon Brunning wrote:
On 13 Jan 2005 07:18:26 EST, Tim Daneliuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But you are being mislead by the fact that integers are immutable.
'spam.eggs = 2' is *creating* an instance member - there wasn't one
before. Have a look at what happens with a mutable object:
Simon, it's
Hi,
i need to develop an app here which will be used to produce stats.
I'm going to go with twisted pb for the client server communication.
And wxPython for the GUI.
Now i would want to split the GUI code from the pb code to make
debugging easier amongst other things but i'm not sure how i would
Hi everybody !
I'm trying to install the pyparallel module for my Python 2.3.4 (runs on
a FC3) but I do have some troubles.
When I import the parallel module, python shows the following message :
import parallel
/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/parallel/parallelppdev.py:32:
FutureWarning: xy
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:56:10 -0500, Peter Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Simon, it's really not about mutability at all. You've changed
the example,
Err, there *wasn't* an example, not really. The OP just mentioned
'setting the values' of instance members. That *can* mean name
binding, but
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
I am a bit confused. I was under the impression that:
class foo(object):
x = 0
y = 1
means that x and y are variables shared by all instances of a class.
What it actually does is define names with the given values *in the
class namespace*.
But when I run this against
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John Machin wrote:
I regard continued usage of octal as a pox and a pestilence.
Quite agree. I was disappointed that it ever made it into Python.
Octal's only use is:
a) umasks
b) confusing the hell out of normal non-programmers for whom a
leading zero is in no way magic
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
I am a bit confused. I was under the impression that:
class foo(object):
x = 0
y = 1
means that x and y are variables shared by all instances of a class.
But when I run this against two instances of foo, and set the values
of x and y, they are indeed unique to the
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Antoon Pardon wrote:
Well, it seems that Guido is wrong then. The documentation clearly
states that an expression is a statement.
no, it says that an expression statement is a statement. if you don't
understand the difference, please *plonk* yourself.
OK then, The
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Xah Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
(As a matter of interest, is this sequence of posts intended to
demonstrate ignorance of both languages, or just one?)
:)
This sequence of posts is intended to stir up a debate just for
the sake of a debate. It's a time sink. It's
Egor Bolonev wrote:
Stephen Thorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] /
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:55:10 +1000, Egor Bolonev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how to get rid of 'for' operator in the code?
import os, os.path
def _test():
src = 'C:\\Documents and SettingsMy Documents\\My
Skip I just checked in your changes. Thanks for the effort.
Jeez Skip... That reads poorly. How about Thanks for your contribution?
In any case, thanks.
Skip
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Hi
my python 2.3.4 for windows refuse to execute line float(NaN). It
says:
float(NaN)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in ?
ValueError: invalid literal for float(): NaN
The same line works as expected on Linux and Solaris with python 2.3.4.
Could anybody explain what is
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my python 2.3.4 for windows refuse to execute line float(NaN). It
says:
float(NaN)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in ?
ValueError: invalid literal for float(): NaN
The same line works as expected on Linux and Solaris with python 2.3.4.
Could
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my python 2.3.4 for windows refuse to execute line float(NaN). It
says:
float(NaN)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in ?
ValueError: invalid literal for float(): NaN
The same line works as expected on Linux and Solaris with python 2.3.4.
Well I find this a confusing behaviour on python's part. The fact
that instance.field can mean something different, depending on
where in a statement you find it, makes the behaviour inconsistent.
I know people in general here are against declarations, but declarations
could IMO provide
Nick Coghlan wrote:
Semantics
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The code::
statement with:
suite
translates to::
def unique_name():
suite
statement
unique_name()
I've come to the conclusion that these semantics aren't what I would expect from
the construct. Exactly what I would expect can't really be
You can try for a free shell access at www.arbornet.org.
telnet (or better SSH) to m-net.arbornet.org and at the login prompt,
type newuser, press enter and follow the on-screen instructions to
register.
Once you register, you get a shell account with email and web space.
Since it is a free
Before you get too carried away, how often do you want to do this and
how grunty is the box you will be running on?
Oops, I should have specified this. The script will only need to be run
once every three or four months, when the sequences are updated. I'll
be running it on boxes that are
Andrey Tatarinov wrote:
I presume the point of this is to avoid polluting the local namespace
with newval. I further presume you also have plans to do something
about i? ;-)
no, the point is in grouping definition of newval() with place where it
is used.
I'd have said the point was both :)
But
If what you want is to insert a method into an
instance, look at new.instancemethod.
John Roth
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Hi,
below is a snipplet that could be seen as a part of a spreadsheet with
getter and setter properties and a way how to dynamically
hanz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But wait if I do that, people will tell me how bad that it is,
because it will keep a reference to the value which will prevent
the garbage collector from harvesting this memory.
Nobody will tell you that it's bad. Python was never about super
performance,
Alex Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whenever I run python I get
Warning! you are running an untested version of Python.
prepended to the start of any output on stdout.
This is with Debian and python 2.3 (running the debian 2.1 and 2.2 binaries
doesn't have this effect)
What
Gerhard Haering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ROFL. Are you using testing, sid or experimental? I expect overzealous
patching from Debian developers, but this is the worst I've heard
of.
I would have thought that is unlikely given the way packages move
(unmodified) from unstable - testing (and
Skip Montanaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jacek Crazy idea ... would it be possible to shadow 2.3's parser with
Jacek one stolen from 2.4 ?
If you're willing to go to that much trouble, why not just upgrade to 2.4?
*I* upgraded to 2.4 sometime when it was in alpha.
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Sara Fwd wrote:
Can anybody help me find a module or a function that
looks in a directory and defines whether the objects
in there are files or directories?
and Simon Brunning replied:
See os.path.isfile() and os.path.isdir() -
http://docs.python.org/lib/module-os.path.html.
I suspect
Hi,
I have a question concerning the Tix file select mechanisms.
Unfortunately,
I have very little experience with neither tk, Tkinter nor Tix.
Somewhere
in my GUI I have a save button. What I want is that pressing the button
opens a file requester. The user can either select a filename or
# class Cell(object):
# def __init__(self, initialvalue = 0):
#self._func = lambda x: x
#self.__value = initialvalue
#
# def setvalue (self, newvalue):
# self.__value = self._func(newvalue)
#
# def getvalue (self):
# return self.__value
#
# def
Simon Wittber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've noticed that a few ASPN cookbook recipes, which are recent
additions, use classic classes.
I've also noticed classic classes are used in many places in the
standard library.
I've been using new-style classes since Python 2.2, and am suprised
Despite the regexp alternatives, I refuse to post a pyparsing solution to
this! :)
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Tim Peters wrote:
Neither -- all Python behavior in the presence of float NaNs,
infinities, or signed zeroes is a platform-dependent accident.
C99 and Fortran 2003 have IEEE arithmetic. If CPython could be compiled
with a C99 compiler, would it also have IEEE arithmetic? Do Python
Nick Coghlan wrote:
def f():
a = 1
b = 2
print 1, locals()
print 3, locals() using:
a = 2
c = 3
print 2, locals()
print 4, locals()
I think the least suprising result would be:
1 {'a': 1, 'b': 2} # Outer scope
2 {'a': 2, 'c': 3} # Inner
Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 2005-01-12, Jeff Shannon schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It's also rather less necessary to use references in Python than it is
in C et. al.
You use nothing but references in Python, that is the reason why
if you assign a mutable to a new name and modify the object through
Thank you very much.
Arbornet.org seems to be ok
Unforutnately I was convinced that I only have to only copy my *.py file to
/public_hml directory and everything will be all right.
As you expect I was wrong.
R.
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Jeff Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because Python uses a fundamentally different concept for variable
names than C/C++/Java (and most other static languages). In those
languages, variables can be passed by value or by reference; neither
term really applies in Python. (Or, if you
Kartic wrote:
And yes, they have python installed...
Python 2.1!
Reinhold
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Stephen Thorne wrote:
As for the overall efficiency concerns, I feel that talking about any
of this is premature optimisation.
I disagree -- using REs is adding unnecessary complication and
dependency. Premature optimization is a matter of using a
conceptually more-complicated method when a
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