Hi
Can someone help me figure out how to install Python Constraints on Windows? I have Python 2.4
Thanks
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My current solver does 1 level of backtracking (i.e. constant space, and
bounded time) only, and it has been able to solve every puzzle I've
thrown at it. It's based on the usual logic and book-keeping for the
most part. (It also explains how it comes up with each answer step as
it goes, wh
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 12:41:09 -0300, Pedro Werneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 17 Sep 2005 02:04:39 -0700
>"Simon Percivall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Have you read the "Metaclasses" part of "Unifying types and classes in
>> Python 2.2"? (http://www.python.org/2.2.3/descrintro.html#metacla
Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Please don't laugh, this is my FIRST Python script where I haven't
> looked at the manual for help...
>
> import string
> import random
>
> class hiScores:
> hiScores=['1Alpha','07500Beta','05000Gamma','02500Delta','0Epsilon']
>
> def showScores(se
this script should create individual threads to scan a range of IP
addresses, but it doesnt, it simple ... does nothing. it doesnt hang
over anything, the thread is not being executed, any ideas anyone?
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MAX_THREADS = 50
class scanThrea
Basically, this means the application doesn't register itself
with the Running Object Table. There's not much you can
do about it, except maybe petition whoever makes ITunes.
Roger
"David Nicolson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi,
>
> I have been successfu
What I dont understand about daemonizing a python script is whether or not it
requires the
daemon creation, ie the signal handling and forking of the process, to be part
of the
daemon code or is this code in a separate program that acts like a wrapper to
turn a
python program into a daemon. The
Ray wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm just reading the latest edition of Python Cookbook, where it says
> in Recipe 4.2:
>
> "when the op you wanna perform on each item is to call a function on
> the item and use the function's result, use L1 = map(f, L), rather than
> L1 = (f(x) for x in L)"
>
> What is wro
Hi,
I have been successfully using iTunes' COM interface with Python
using either of the following lines successfully:
iTunes = win32com.client.gencache.EnsureDispatch("iTunes.Application")
iTunes = win32com.client.Dispatch("iTunes.Application")
The only problem is that it will launch iTunes i
Hello,
I'm just reading the latest edition of Python Cookbook, where it says
in Recipe 4.2:
"when the op you wanna perform on each item is to call a function on
the item and use the function's result, use L1 = map(f, L), rather than
L1 = (f(x) for x in L)"
What is wrong with the generator expres
James H. wrote:
> Greetings! I'm new to Python and am struggling a little with "and" and
> "or" logic in Python. Since Python always ends up returning a value
> and this is a little different from C, the language I understand best
> (i.e. C returns non-zero as true, and zero as false), is there
George Sakkis wrote:
> "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Please don't laugh, this is my FIRST Python script where I haven't
>> looked at the manual for help...
>
> Sooner or later you should ;)
>
>> import string
>
> Don't need it it modern python; use string methods instead.
>
>> import
"Peter Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> George Sakkis wrote:
> > "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Is there a way to make python create a list of Mondays for a given year?
> >
> > Get the dateutil package (https://moin.conectiva.com.br/DateUtil):
> >
> > import dateutil.rrule as rrule
> >
Mike Meyer wrote:
> And *portable*. I was delighted to discover a port of the original
> rogue to the Palm. Then shocked to realize that my (old, obsolete)
> Palm had four times as much RAM as the 11/70 I originally ran Rogue
> on. And probably an equal overabundance of mips.
I actually started o
"Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please don't laugh, this is my FIRST Python script where I haven't
> looked at the manual for help...
Sooner or later you should ;)
> import string
Don't need it it modern python; use string methods instead.
> import random
>
> class hiScores:
The common c
James H. wrote:
> Greetings! I'm new to Python and am struggling a little with "and" and
> "or" logic in Python. Since Python always ends up returning a value
> and this is a little different from C, the language I understand best
> (i.e. C returns non-zero as true, and zero as false), is there a
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a way to make python create a list of Mondays for a given year?
> mondays = ['1/3/2005','1/10/2005','1/17/2005','1/24/2005',
> '1/31/2005','2/7/2005', ... ]
This is pretty inefficient but it's conceptually the simplest:
def mondays(year):
from ca
George Sakkis wrote:
> "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Is there a way to make python create a list of Mondays for a given year?
>
> Get the dateutil package (https://moin.conectiva.com.br/DateUtil):
>
> import dateutil.rrule as rrule
> from datetime import date
>
> mondays2005 = tuple(rrule
Greetings! I'm new to Python and am struggling a little with "and" and
"or" logic in Python. Since Python always ends up returning a value
and this is a little different from C, the language I understand best
(i.e. C returns non-zero as true, and zero as false), is there anything
I should be awar
On 18 Sep 2005 12:58:22 -0700
"Simon Percivall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I definitely think that it's the intended behaviour: the example shows
> how and why it works; and I definitely agree that it should be
> documented better.
Yes. I finally understood the decision and now I agree it's not
"open" is designed to provide Unix users with a single tool for
dealing with the multitude of applications that deal with data files.
Without open - or something like it - every time a user wants to look
at a file, they have to figure out what type the file is and which
application on their path ca
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Don't be fooled by their apparent simplicity! What most roguelikes lack
> in graphics they make up for in game play. These suckers are addictive.
> You have been warned!
And *portable*. I was delighted to discover a port of the original
rogue to the Palm. Then shocked t
Please don't laugh, this is my FIRST Python script where I haven't
looked at the manual for help...
import string
import random
class hiScores:
hiScores=['1Alpha','07500Beta','05000Gamma','02500Delta','0Epsilon']
def showScores(self):
for entry in self.hiScores:
Consider also dateutil written by Gustavo Niemeyer
and found at:
https://moin.conectiva.com.br/DateUtil
>>> from dateutil.rrule import *
>>> list(rrule(WEEKLY, byweekday=MO, dtstart=date(2005,1,1),
>>> until=date(2005,12,31)))
The library may be a little intimidating at first it is worth learnin
Hello,
I'm developing a piece of software to assist illiteraate adults to learn to
read. I'm trying to figure out how, if possible, to make audio playback
asynchrnous but still controllable. I'm using python 2.4 with pymedia on
XP. I started out with the example in the tutorials section of t
"Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to make python create a list of Mondays for a given year?
>
> For example,
>
> mondays = ['1/3/2005','1/10/2005','1/17/2005','1/24/2005',
> '1/31/2005','2/7/2005', ... ]
Get the dateutil package (https://moin.conectiva.com.br/DateUtil):
impor
Robert Kern wrote:
> Thomas Jollans wrote:
>> what exactly is RPG/roguelike etc ? (what debian package provides an
>> example?)
>
> Google is your friend.
Often a fair answer, but I'd suggest that the question was fair, especially
given the OP was seeking help :-)
After all, I read the subject
I have used fetchall() to insert the values from a table into a tuple. anywhere from 0 - ? many rows could be in this tuple, so it is a row within a row. How do I use a loops to iterate through the nested tuple, and assign the tuples integers and strings to variables, ugh :P
The Tables data is l
Another epileptic seizure on the keyboard. Apart from clue deficit
disorder, this guy seems to suffer from some serious anger management
problems...*plonk*
"Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Python Doc Problem Example
>
> Quote from:
> http://docs.python.org/lib/module-os.path.html
>
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:28:30 +0100
Thomas Jollans wrote:
> what exactly is RPG/roguelike etc ? (what debian package provides an
> example?)
apt-cache search roguelike
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Chris wrote:
> Is there a way to make python create a list of Mondays for a given year?
>
> For example,
>
> mondays = ['1/3/2005','1/10/2005','1/17/2005','1/24/2005',
> '1/31/2005','2/7/2005', ... ]
from datetime import date, timedelta
def mondays(year):
'''generate all days that are Mo
> Please don't feed the trolls.
> In other words, if everybody ignores this loser, he might crawl back under
> the rock he came from.
Well, comp.lang.python people would do better to accept the suggested
rewrite and ignore at the rest at their discretion.
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Let us say that I am trying to create a very small and simple private network/connection between several scripts on different machines, to communicate instructions/data/files etc. to each other over the net. Is SSL the best method? Any recommendations of something to get started with? Thanks in adv
Let us say that I am trying to create a very small and simple private network/connection between several scripts on different machines, to communicate instructions/data/files etc. to each other over the net. Is SSL the best method? Any recommendations of something to get started with? Thanks in adv
Let us say that I am trying to create a very small and simple private network/connection between several scripts on different machines, to communicate instructions/data/files etc. to each other over the net. Is SSL the best method? Any recommendations of something to get started with? Thanks in adv
Chris> Is there a way to make python create a list of Mondays for a
Chris> given year? For example,
Chris> mondays = ['1/3/2005','1/10/2005','1/17/2005','1/24/2005',
Chris> '1/31/2005','2/7/2005', ... ]
How about:
import datetime
oneday = datetime.timedelta(days=1)
> *** success: small factorization program by Rohit Krishna Kumar 124
> *** no failures, yay!
>
>
> :)
>
> Well done. So what was causing that crash in test '__class__ and
> __name__ attributes' after all?
Well, I did something like this:
class_ c(..);
class_ *cp = &c;
class list {
list()
Is there a way to make python create a list of Mondays for a given year?
For example,
mondays = ['1/3/2005','1/10/2005','1/17/2005','1/24/2005',
'1/31/2005','2/7/2005', ... ]
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I definitely think that it's the intended behaviour: the example shows
how and why it works; and I definitely agree that it should be
documented better.
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Laszlo Zsolt Nagy a écrit :
>
>> is the doc writer, trying to write the doc with some austereness, but
>> is confused about the behavior of split, or confused about expressing
>> it? Did his pretension fucked him up?
>>
>>
> Dear Xah Lee,
>
> The Python community is very sorry because we have a
On 18 Sep 2005 10:33:11 -0700
"Simon Percivall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Isn't that exactly what you are doing?
Yes, and that example has the same inconsistency.
>>> class X(type): pass
...
>>> class D2(C3, C2): __metaclass__ = X
...
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, i
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> replacing sys.stdin with something that isn't a TTY will fix this.
This works like magic! Thank you!
Bo
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Robert Kern wrote:
>
> Google is your friend.
>
True, that :-)
But what the heck. The average roguelike is a hack 'n' slash computer
game based on tabletop roleplaying games, most often Dungeons and
Dragons. The graphics in most roguelikes have stayed the same since the
70's (i.e. ASCII text
Thanks Steven, very good explaination. f.seek(0) does the trick!
Alex
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If you have read the document I referred you to, did you also read the
example where classes M1, M2, M3 and M4 were defined?
A quote from the discussion of that example:
"For class D, the explicit metaclass M1 is not a subclass of the base
metaclasses (M2, M3), but choosing M3 satisfies the constr
Yes the problem seems to be exactly that. I'm moving around the file
pointer. This piece of code works. Observe the only thing I've added is
f.seek(0)
>>> f=open('mytext.txt', 'w+')
>>> f.write('My name is Bob')
>>> f.seek(0)
>>> s=f.read()
>>> print s
My name is Bob
>>> f.close()
I've found this
Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
> Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
>>
>>> Very interesting!
>>> BTW: I wonder if and when someone will use stackless python or pygame
>>> as a
>>> basis for developing a _visual_ development environment for 2D
>>> games/multimedia like Macromedia Director. It would be a killer app.
"D Hering" wrote:
> I just installed 2.5a0
what part of aahz's "There is no Python 2.5 alpha" did you not
understand?
> in an alternative directory (make altinstall) which
> build and tested out fine. I'm gonna now attempt to compile the module
> packages mentioned above. I'll report how it turn
Thanks to all, especially to Stuart, for very informative answers.
It's clear to me now that there is no need in my case to use
functions / stored procedures (yes, with typical MVC app I meant a
webapp on the same server with database, administered by the same
persons). However it can be a useful
Bo Peng wrote:
> This method works fine with only one minor problem. It would stop
> (waiting for user input) at help(str) command. I will have to find a way
> to feed the program with'q' etc.
replacing sys.stdin with something that isn't a TTY will fix this.
here's one way to do it:
class
18 Sep 2005 09:11:51 -0700, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Rossum's tutorial on Python states:
it's "Van Rossum's" :)
"van" in a part of the last name, you can't just cut it away in Dutch :)
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So far so good. Numeric-24.0b2, numarray-1.3.3, pytables-1.1.1 (gonna
wait alittle on the scipy install) all built. Tests passed except one
trivial test in numarray but does function:
1 items had failures:
1 of 1205 in cache pass
***Test Failed*** 1 failures.
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:11:51 -0700, Alex wrote:
> Rossum's tutorial on Python states:
> "open() returns a file object, and is most commonly used with two
> arguments: 'open(filename, mode)'
> mode 'r+' opens the file for both reading and writing."
>
> Here's a little session in Python's interacti
"Alex" wrote:
> If I open the file mytext.txt in Notepad I see something that begins
> with
>
> "My name is Bob VwMÚ¸x¶ Ð "
>
> and goes on for approximately 4082 characters.
>
> What's happening??
you're moving the file pointer around in a new file, and you're getting
junk (from the stdio fil
I guess google did something funny to me. I was trying to post this to
Cake PHP group.
Thanks,
Leonard
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Hi,
I posted this ticket https://trac.cakephp.org/ticket/212 and didn't get
a meaningful answer.
How can I order the data by a certain column in an index page?
Thanks,
Leonard
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Bo Peng wrote:
>> import code
>>
>> SCRIPT = [line.rstrip() for line in open("myscript.py")]
>>
>> script = ""
>> prompt = ">>>"
>>
>> for line in SCRIPT:
>> print prompt, line
>> script = script + line + "\n"
>> co = code.compile_command(script, "", "exec")
>> if co:
>> #
I have no idea what is happening, but to the subject line: I guess it's
a plain wrapper around fopen fron
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Thomas Jollans wrote:
> what exactly is RPG/roguelike etc ? (what debian package provides an
> example?)
Google is your friend.
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Are the graves of dreams allowed to die."
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Jorgen Grahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:24:32 -0400, François Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah. I've often wished for some overview or guide that translates the
> current buzzwords to old concepts I'm familiar with. For example, I'm sure
> you can capture the core
Sorry if the question seems naive, but is there a risk of concurrent
accesses to a database if it is accessed only by scripts called by
requests to an asynchronous server ?
I have the same question for a server built on the non-threaded version
of SocketServer.TCPServer
A+
Pierre
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Mark Dufour wrote:
> > By the way, I read in your blog that you would be releasing a windows
> > intaller soon.
> > Have you, or anyone else, managed to do it?
>
> I just finished making a 20 MB (!) package for Windows XP (I'm not
> sure which older versions of Windows it will run on.) It includes
what exactly is RPG/roguelike etc ? (what debian package provides an
example?)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The 'code' module contains 'Utilities needed to emulate Python's interactive
> interpreter.'. By subclassing code.InteractiveConsole and replacing the
> raw_input method with one which reads from a file, I think you can get what
> you
> want.
This method works fine wit
> (I wonder, by the way, if it's a good idea to provide a very rich interface
> between an application and embedded Python. I have no experience in the
> area, but intuition tells me that simplicity and minimalism is important.
So long as you distinguish between minimalist and the bare minimum. M
On 18 Sep 2005 00:39:31 -0700
"Michele Simionato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Remember that given a class C, its metaclass is given by C.__class__,
> not by > C.__metaclass__, despite the name.
Of course. Seems you think I'm arguing that C.__class__ and
__metaclass__ should always be the same. T
Rossum's tutorial on Python states:
"open() returns a file object, and is most commonly used with two
arguments: 'open(filename, mode)'
mode 'r+' opens the file for both reading and writing."
Here's a little session in Python's interactive window
>>> f=open('mytext.txt','w+')
>>> f.write('My name
Thank you for the suggestions and code!
> import code
>
> SCRIPT = [line.rstrip() for line in open("myscript.py")]
>
> script = ""
> prompt = ">>>"
>
> for line in SCRIPT:
> print prompt, line
> script = script + line + "\n"
> co = code.compile_command(script, "", "exec")
> if
X-Ftn-To: Xah Lee
"Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Python Doc Problem Example
what makes you sure that this problem would be interesting for groups beside
c.l.python? are you begging to be converted to a true religion? :-)
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The 'code' module contains 'Utilities needed to emulate Python's interactive
interpreter.'. By subclassing code.InteractiveConsole and replacing the
raw_input method with one which reads from a file, I think you can get what you
want.
The example below the classes uses StringIO so that it can be
Bo Peng wrote:
> I have a long list of commands in the form of a script and would like to
> obtain a log file as if I enter the commands one by one. (The output
> will be used in a tutorial.) What would be the best way to do it? Copy
> and paste is not acceptable since I make frequent changes tot
Dear list,
I have a long list of commands in the form of a script and would like to
obtain a log file as if I enter the commands one by one. (The output
will be used in a tutorial.) What would be the best way to do it? Copy
and paste is not acceptable since I make frequent changes tot he scri
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 02:15:00PM +1000, Maurice Ling wrote:
> Sorry but what are SEEK_END and SEEK_SET?
Oops, that's what I get for snipping a part of a larger program.
SEEK_SET = 0
SEEK_END = 2
Jeff
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Hi Aahz,
Yes thank you. To clarify the cvs dist README listed Python version 2.5
alpha 0. I should have realized before posting that replacing was a bad
idea and another "slot-ed" version could be installed (package manager
already has 2.3.5 & 2.4.1). I just installed 2.5a0 in an alternative
direct
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> At the same time, if array[0].songs equals array[1] songs, you are
> probably initializing both array[0] and array[1] with the same object.
> Since array[0] and array[1] both refer to the same object, a change to
> one wil
Gustavo Picon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 23:34 -0500, Gustavo Picon wrote:
>> Maybe something like this?
>>
>> class music(object):
>> def __init__(self):
>> self.lst = {}
>> def __setattr__(self, name, value):
>> self.__d
It works! Thanks so much for your help!
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On Slashdot there is a discussion about the future C#3.0:
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/05/09/18/0545217.shtml?tid=109&tid=8
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vcsharp/future/
There are many differences, but it looks a bit more like Python:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/5/0/9503e33e
Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
> As everyone posts his, I'll do the same :) It uses some constraint based
> solving techniques - but not too complicated ones. When stuck, it
> backtracks. So far it never failed me, but I haven't tested it too
> thouroughly.
Thanks to all for sharing. I like to program su
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:58:58 -0700, Harlin Seritt wrote:
> I have a file that a few different running scripts will need to access.
> Most likely this won't be a problem but if it is, what do I need to do
> to make sure scripts don't crash because the input file is in use?
> Would it be best to run
Had the same reaction as everyone when I saw theses puzzles a month or
so ago, so here is my solution...
the solve function is recursive, so it can also solve the 'deadlock
set' (example3). find_cell looks for an empty cell with the most filled
cells in it's row and column, so the search tree doesn
On 14 Sep 2005 07:03:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stefano Masini wrote:
>
>> There are a few ares where everybody seems to be implementing their
>> own stuff over and over: logging, file handling, ordered dictionaries,
>> data serialization, and maybe a few more.
>> I do
>is the doc writer, trying to write the doc with some austereness, but
>is confused about the behavior of split, or confused about expressing
>it? Did his pretension fucked him up?
>
>
Dear Xah Lee,
The Python community is very sorry because we have a very bad
documentation. You are right. Th
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:46:03 -0700, Xah Lee wibbled:
> Can anyone tell me what this verbiage is trying to fucking say?
Please don't feed the trolls.
In other words, if everybody ignores this loser, he might crawl back under
the rock he came from.
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Quote from:
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Split the pathname path into a pair, (head, tail) where tail is the
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tail part will never contain a slash
Neal Becker wrote:
> One possible way to improve the situation is, that if we really believe
> python cannot easily support such optimizations because the code is too
> "dynamic", is to allow manual annotation of functions. For example, gcc
> has allowed such annotations using __attribute__ for qu
As everyone posts his, I'll do the same :) It uses some constraint based
solving techniques - but not too complicated ones. When stuck, it
backtracks. So far it never failed me, but I haven't tested it too
thouroughly.
Diez
import copy
def condense(vals):
if len(vals) == 0:
retur
Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
>
>> Very interesting!
>> BTW: I wonder if and when someone will use stackless python or pygame
>> as a
>> basis for developing a _visual_ development environment for 2D
>> games/multimedia like Macromedia Director. It would be a killer app.
>
>
> Blender. It currently d
> Very interesting!
>
> BTW: I wonder if and when someone will use stackless python or pygame as a
> basis for developing a _visual_ development environment for 2D
> games/multimedia like Macromedia Director. It would be a killer app.
Blender. It currently doesn't use stacklass AFAIK, but that
Lucas Raab wrote:
> Saw this on Slashdot
> (http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/17/182207&from=rss)
> and thought some people might be interested in it. Direct link to the
> article is
>
http://harkal.sylphis3d.com/2005/08/10/multithreaded-game-scripting-with-stackless-python/
>
Harlin Seritt wrote:
> I have a file that a few different running scripts will need to access.
[...]
> This may seem nice on paper but I hate to run a while for an
> indeterminate amount of time. Is there anything else that can be done
> that would be better?
On posix systems, there is a fcntl mod
Pedro Werneck wrote:
>>> class M_A(type): pass
...
>>> class A: __metaclass__ = M_A
...
>>> class M_B(M_A): pass
...
>>> class B(A): __metaclass__ = M_B
...
>>> class C(B): __metaclass__ = M_A
...
>>> C.__class__
>>> C.__metaclass__
> Is this supposed to happen ?
Yes, or at least I fee
D.Hering wrote:
> under gentoo linux 2.6.
that does not exist. gentoo labels installers 2005.0 etc, but I have
never heard of version numbers.
do you mean gentoo with linux 2.6 ?
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I have a file that a few different running scripts will need to access.
Most likely this won't be a problem but if it is, what do I need to do
to make sure scripts don't crash because the input file is in use?
Would it be best to run a loop like the following:
flag = 0
while not flag:
try:
You can do the following:
import os
data = os.popen('ping machineName').read()
if 'request timed out' in data or 'unknown host' in data:
Ping Failed Code
else:
Ping Returned Something Good Code
This is the quickest and really most effective way to get it done IMO.
Harlin Seritt
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