ANN: PIL 1.1.6 alpha 1 (december 11, 2005)

2005-12-12 Thread Fredrik Lundh
The first official PIL 1.1.6 alpha is now available from effbot.org: http://effbot.org/downloads (look for Imaging-1.1.6a1.tar.gz) Notable additions since 1.1.5: + Added pixel access object. The load method now returns an access object that can be used to directly get and set pixel

Re: Using XML w/ Python...

2005-12-12 Thread Jay
when putting excactly what you got, i got python -c import amara; print dir(amara) Traceback ( File interactive input, line 1 python -c import amara; print dir(amara) ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax when doing it seperately, i got import amara

Re: Problem with Lexical Scope

2005-12-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, I think I found a nasty little hack to get around it, but I still don't see why it doesn't work in the regular way. def collect(fields, reducer): def rule(record): # Nasty hack b/c can't get lexical scoping of status to work status = [True] def _(x, y, s=status):

Re: lambda (and reduce) are valuable

2005-12-12 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Steven Bethard wrote: I thought stuff like the following was idiomatic in GUI programming. Do you really want separate names for all those callbacks? # generate calculator keypad buttons Button(label='7', command=lambda: user_pressed(7)).grid(column=1, row=1) Button(label='8',

Re: Problem with Lexical Scope

2005-12-12 Thread Steve Holden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not completely knowledgable about the status of lexical scoping in Python, but it was my understanding that this was added in a long time ago around python2.1-python2.2 I am using python2.4 and the following code throws a status variable not found in the

Re: lambda (and reduce) are valuable

2005-12-12 Thread bonono
Steven Bethard wrote: Paul Rubin wrote: Chris Mellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As someone who does a tremendous amount of event-driven GUI programming, I'd like to take a moment to speak out against people using us as a testament to the virtues of lamda. Event handlers are the most

Re: slice notation as values?

2005-12-12 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 2005-12-10, Devan L schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Antoon Pardon wrote: On 2005-12-10, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I also think that other functions could benefit. For instance suppose you want to iterate over every second element in a list. Sure you can use an extended

Re: lambda (and reduce) are valuable

2005-12-12 Thread Paul Rubin
Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a temporary factory function should be sufficient: def digit(label, x, y): def callback(): # print BUTTON PRESS, label # debug! user_pressed(int(label)) Button(label=label, command=callback).grid(column=x,

Re: JOB: Telecommute Python Programmer - IMMEDIATE NEED

2005-12-12 Thread Michael Bernstein
Beau Gould is the owner and moderator of what was until very recently the 'pythonzopejobs' group on groups.yahoo.com. Two days ago, I got a PHP/MySQL job from a Yahoo Groups address I didn't recognize. Initially, I classified it as spam, and forgot about it. Today, I had reason to search the

Re: lambda (and reduce) are valuable

2005-12-12 Thread Paul Rubin
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: binops = {'+': (lambda x,y: x+y), '-': (lambda x,y: x-y), '*': (lambda x,y: x*y), '/': (lambda x,y: x/y), '**': (lambda x,y: x**y) } How would you refactor that, with no

Re: Problem with Lexical Scope

2005-12-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That does make sense. So there is no way to modify a variable in an outer lexical scope? Is the use of a mutable data type the only way? I'm trying to think of a case that would create semantic ambiguity when being able to modify a variable reference in an outer scope, but I cannot (which is

Re: lambda (and reduce) are valuable

2005-12-12 Thread bonono
Paul Rubin wrote: Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a temporary factory function should be sufficient: def digit(label, x, y): def callback(): # print BUTTON PRESS, label # debug! user_pressed(int(label)) Button(label=label,

Re: Problem with Lexical Scope

2005-12-12 Thread Duncan Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using python2.4 and the following code throws a status variable not found in the inner-most function, even when I try to global it. def collect(fields, reducer): def rule(record): status = True def _(x, y): cstat = reducer(x,

Re: mail attachment with non-ascii name

2005-12-12 Thread Bernard Delmée
Thank you Neil, that is what I needed. B. Neil Hodgson wrote: import email.Header x = '=?iso-8859-1?q?somefile=2ezip?=' email.Header.decode_header(x) [('somefile.zip', 'iso-8859-1')] Neil -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Problem with Lexical Scope

2005-12-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the example code. Definately provided a few different ways of doing the construction. Actually, the status variable was the only thing that mattered for the inner function. The first code post had a bug b/c I was first just trying to use reduce. However, I realized that the boolean

Re: Problem with Lexical Scope

2005-12-12 Thread bonono
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That does make sense. So there is no way to modify a variable in an outer lexical scope? Is the use of a mutable data type the only way? I'm trying to think of a case that would create semantic ambiguity when being able to modify a variable reference in an outer

how does exception mechanism work?

2005-12-12 Thread bobueland
Sometimes the best way to understand something is to understand the mechanism behind it. Maybe that is true for exceptions. This is a model I have right now (which probably is wrong) 1. When a runtime error occurs, some function (probably some class method) in Python is called behind the scenes.

Re: lambda (and reduce) are valuable

2005-12-12 Thread Paul Rubin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How would you refactor that, with no lambda? Or, why would you want to refactor that ? I like it the way it was written. I'm not the one saying lambda is bogus. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Problem with Lexical Scope

2005-12-12 Thread bonono
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the example code. Definately provided a few different ways of doing the construction. Actually, the status variable was the only thing that mattered for the inner function. The first code post had a bug b/c I was first just trying to use reduce. However,

Re: slice notation as values?

2005-12-12 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 2005-12-10, Brian Beck schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Antoon Pardon wrote: Will it ever be possible to write things like: a = 4:9 I made a silly recipe to do something like this a while ago, not that I'd recommend using it. But I also think it wouldn't be too far-fetched to allow slice

Re: how does exception mechanism work?

2005-12-12 Thread Paul Rubin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this model correct or wrong? Where can I read about the mechanism behind exceptions? Usually you push exception handlers and finally clauses onto the activation stack like you push return addresses for function calls. When something raises an exception, you scan the

Re: slice notation as values?

2005-12-12 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 2005-12-11, Bengt Richter schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10 Dec 2005 12:07:12 -0800, Devan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antoon Pardon wrote: On 2005-12-10, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I also think that other functions could benefit. For instance suppose you want to iterate

Re: TypeError: no arguments expected

2005-12-12 Thread Steve Holden
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:00:55 -0500, shawn a [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: I havet these 2 files in the same dir. This is code im writing to learn pythong mkoneurl.py: #! /usr/bin/env python import make_ou_class run =

Re: slice notation as values?

2005-12-12 Thread bonono
Antoon Pardon wrote: Suppose I have a list with 10 000 elements and I want the sum of the first 100, the sum of the second 100 ... One way to do that would be: for i in xrange(0,1,100): sum(itertools.islice(lst, i, i+100)) But itertools.islice would each time start from the

Re: slice notation as values?

2005-12-12 Thread Bengt Richter
On 12 Dec 2005 08:34:37 GMT, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op 2005-12-10, Devan L schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Antoon Pardon wrote: On 2005-12-10, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I also think that other functions could benefit. For instance suppose you want to iterate

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-12 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 2005-12-11, Rick Wotnaz schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Because you're accustomed to one set of conventions, you may find Python's set strange at first. Please try it, and don't fight it. See if your objections don't fade away. If you're like most Python newbies, you'll stop thinking about

Re: lambda (and reduce) are valuable

2005-12-12 Thread Bengt Richter
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:15:38 +0100, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Bethard wrote: I thought stuff like the following was idiomatic in GUI programming. Do you really want separate names for all those callbacks? # generate calculator keypad buttons Button(label='7',

Re: slice notation as values?

2005-12-12 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 2005-12-12, Bengt Richter schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12 Dec 2005 08:34:37 GMT, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op 2005-12-10, Devan L schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Antoon Pardon wrote: On 2005-12-10, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I also think that other functions

Re: Problem with Lexical Scope

2005-12-12 Thread Bengt Richter
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:26:59 +, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The scoping rules do work when you obey them: def f1(a, b): ... s = a+b ... def _(x): ... return s+x ... return _ ... func = f1(12, 13) func(10) 35 Here the nested lexical scopes rule

Re: lambda (and reduce) are valuable

2005-12-12 Thread Paul Rubin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) writes: for tup in ((str(d+1), d%3+1,3-d//3) for d in xrange(9)): digit(*tup) tweak 'til correct ;-) GMTA. See: http://www.nightsong.com/phr/python/calc.py written a couple years ago. It uses: for i in xrange(1,10):

Re: instance + classmethod question

2005-12-12 Thread Laszlo Zsolt Nagy
Mike Meyer wrote: Laszlo Zsolt Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it possible to tell, which instance was used to call the classmethod that is currently running? Ok, I read through what got to my nntp server, and I'm still completely confused. A class method isn't necessarilry called

Python is incredible!

2005-12-12 Thread Tolga
Hi everyone, I am using Common Lisp for a while and nowadays I've heard so much about Python that finally I've decided to give it a try becuase Python is not very far away from Lisp family. I cannot believe this! This snake is amazing, incredible and so beautiful! You, Pythonists, why didn't you

Re: heartbeats

2005-12-12 Thread Chris Miles
Hi Yves, You could try using EDDIE Tool's PORT directive to periodically make TCP connections to your clients and check the result matches what is expected. The alert engine will make it easy for you to define actions to perform for failure conditions. http://eddie-tool.net/ You could also

Re: Python is incredible!

2005-12-12 Thread Sebastjan Trepca
Welcome to Python world :) On 12 Dec 2005 03:44:13 -0800, Tolga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I am using Common Lisp for a while and nowadays I've heard so much about Python that finally I've decided to give it a try becuase Python is not very far away from Lisp family. I cannot

Re: XML and namespaces

2005-12-12 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Paul Boddie] It's interesting that minidom plus PrettyPrint seems to generate the xmlns attributes in the serialisation, though; should that be reported as a bug? I believe that it is a bug. [Paul Boddie] Well, with the automagic, all DOM users get the once in a lifetime chance to

Re: Another newbie question

2005-12-12 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 2005-12-11, Steven D'Aprano schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:46:35 +, Antoon Pardon wrote: But I *want* other classes to poke around inside my implementation. That's a virtue, not a vice. My API says: In addition to the full set of methods which operate on the

how to catch error with system()

2005-12-12 Thread eight02645999
hi i have a piece of python code extract that calls an external java program cmd = java someclass someargs try: ret = os.WEXITSTATUS(os.system(cmd)) except: print blah else: dosomething(ret) the thing is, the java class someclass produces it's own errors when something goes wrong.

List text files showing LFs and expanded tabs (was: Colorize expanded tabs)

2005-12-12 Thread qwweeeit
Hi all, in a previous post I asked help for colorizing expanded tab. I wanted to list text files showing in colors LFs and the expanded tabs. I hoped to use only bash but, being impossible, I reverted to Python. I programmed a very short script . Here it is (... and I ask comments or critics): #

Re: Problem with Lexical Scope

2005-12-12 Thread Duncan Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reducer does have no side effects so I suppose short-circuting it would be the best thing. I think the only thing about the last example is that it starts things off with a zero. I think that would boink it. In that case, and assuming that fields contains at least one

Re: Creating referenceable objects from XML

2005-12-12 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ElementTree ( http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/02/12/py-xml.html ) is a Python InfoSet rather than a Python data binding. You access nodes using generic names related to the node type rather than the node name. Whether data bindings or Infosets are your preference is a

make a video from xwd output

2005-12-12 Thread Sinan Nalkaya
hi i want to write a program that makes a video of my desktop, i think that can be via return or output xwd functions in X11 lib then through to the mpeg video encoding codes, hmm is there an easier solution to this via python? thanks for your attention. --

Re: Another newbie question

2005-12-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:12:46 +, Antoon Pardon wrote: And maybe it isn't a Coordinate class at all, hmmm? Indeed it isn't. It is usually a Point class. An ordinary, Cartesian, real-valued Coordinate is a pair of ordinates, an X and Y ordinates. That's what it *is* -- a coordinate class

Re: OO in Python? ^^

2005-12-12 Thread bruno at modulix
Mike Meyer wrote: Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ^^ There is no functionality to check if a subclass correctly implements an inherited interface I don't know of any language that provide such a thing. At least for my definition of correctly. Well, since your definition of

Re: Proposal: Inline Import

2005-12-12 Thread bruno at modulix
Mike Meyer wrote: Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (snip) What's really got me down is the level of effort required to move code between modules. After I cut 100 lines from a 500 line module and paste them to a different 500 line module, I have to examine every import in both modules

Re: make a video from xwd output

2005-12-12 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Sinan Nalkaya wrote: hi i want to write a program that makes a video of my desktop, i think that can be via return or output xwd functions in X11 lib then through to the mpeg video encoding codes, hmm is there an easier solution to this via python? http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/

Re: make a video from xwd output

2005-12-12 Thread Sinan Nalkaya
On Monday 12 December 2005 03:34 pm, Fredrik Lundh wrote: Sinan Nalkaya wrote: hi i want to write a program that makes a video of my desktop, i think that can be via return or output xwd functions in X11 lib then through to the mpeg video encoding codes, hmm is there an easier solution to

Re: Pythonic XML library with XPath support for Jython?

2005-12-12 Thread Alan Kennedy
[James] A couple of years ago there wasn't one and the recommendation was to simply use Java libs. Have things changed since? AFAIK, things haven't changed. Things you might be interested to know 1. There is a module in PyXML, called javadom, that layers python semantics on top of various

Re: Another newbie question

2005-12-12 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 2005-12-12, Steven D'Aprano schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:12:46 +, Antoon Pardon wrote: And maybe it isn't a Coordinate class at all, hmmm? Indeed it isn't. It is usually a Point class. An ordinary, Cartesian, real-valued Coordinate is a pair of ordinates, an X

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-12 Thread Rick Wotnaz
Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Op 2005-12-11, Rick Wotnaz schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Because you're accustomed to one set of conventions, you may find Python's set strange at first. Please try it, and don't fight it. See if your objections don't fade

making fractals in python

2005-12-12 Thread evil_daffid
hi, Im reseaching fractals, and how to make them in python using recursion. I've written a bit of code to make the koch isalnd but something isn't right, I have the basic shape but there's something wrong with the recursion i've used, could someone help me. Here is the code im using: import

Re: Using XML w/ Python...

2005-12-12 Thread uche . ogbuji
import amara print dir(amara) ['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__file__', '__name__', '__path__', '__version__', 'binderytools', 'os', 'parse'] So it's not able to load domtools. What do you get trying from amara import domtools print domtools.py -- Uche Ogbuji

Re: how to catch error with system()

2005-12-12 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi i have a piece of python code extract that calls an external java program cmd = java someclass someargs try: ret = os.WEXITSTATUS(os.system(cmd)) except: print blah else: dosomething(ret) the thing is, the java class someclass produces it's own

Re: Using XML w/ Python...

2005-12-12 Thread Rick Wotnaz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Spoke too soon, i get this error when running amara in ActivePython import amara amara.parse(http://www.digg.com/rss/index.xml;) Traceback (most recent call last): File interactive input, line 1, in ? File

Help: how to run python applications as NT service?

2005-12-12 Thread zxo102
Hi there, I have a python application (many python scripts) and I start the application like this python myServer.py start in window. It is running in dos window. Now I would like to put it in background as NT service. I got a example code: SmallestService.py from chapter 18 of the book

how fast can you pingpong pickled objects?

2005-12-12 Thread Bram Stolk
Hi there, I'm transfering small pickled object over a socket. The performance I see is lower than expected. How fast should I be able to ping/pong small objects in python? I use a threaded SocketServer, telnetlib and pickle to test this, and I see that a 100 ping-pongs take 4 seconds or so,

IsString

2005-12-12 Thread Tuvas
I need a function that will tell if a given variable is a character or a number. Is there a way to do this? Thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

NoneType to unicode

2005-12-12 Thread John Morey
My program reads ID3 tags from MP3 files and enters them into a database. I have been testing it on a variety of MP3s, including ones with weird characters in the tags (such as norweigan black metal bands) When this happens it throws the program as they are outside the ascii range, the program

Re: IsString

2005-12-12 Thread Rick Wotnaz
Tuvas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need a function that will tell if a given variable is a character or a number. Is there a way to do this? Thanks! If you really need to, you can test for type: for x in ['3',3,3.1,3j]: ... print type(x) type 'str' type 'int'

line deletion

2005-12-12 Thread ghaitma
I am a beginner, I have this line that write something on the screen(Text(Point(4,15), Question 4).draw(window). How do I delete it later on in the program so that I can write another one. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: NoneType to unicode

2005-12-12 Thread Alan Franzoni
John Morey on comp.lang.python said: I have tried using the encode() function to change the values to unicode however I cannot do this because they are returned from the id3 library as NoneType instances. which means I need to convert to a string first (which i can't do because it crashes

Re: PHP = Perl Improved

2005-12-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:25:08 GMT in comp.lang.python, Tim Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The design of the PHP language is not too bad, and the standard library is extensive. It is quite possible to write well-structured, class-based web programs with PHP. However, it seems that almost

Re: Using XML w/ Python...

2005-12-12 Thread uche . ogbuji
Not wanting to hijack this thread, but it got me interested in installing amara. I downloaded Amara-allinone-1.0.win32-py2.4.exe and ran it. It professed that the installation directory was to be D:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\ ... but it placed FT and amara in D:

Re: making fractals in python

2005-12-12 Thread evil_daffid
Heres a link to the koch island: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LindenmayerSystem.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

PythonWin + console

2005-12-12 Thread g.franzkowiak
Hi everybody, it was a long way, have a runing COM connection, but wishing run it from the console. The COM part is embedded in the example 'createwin.py' from pywin/Demo but it operates only with pythonwin /run 'test.py'. Is it possible to use that as an python thread and hide the pythonwin

Re: Help: how to run python applications as NT service?

2005-12-12 Thread gene tani
zxo102 wrote: Hi there, I have a python application (many python scripts) and I start the application like this python myServer.py start in window. It is running in dos window. Now I would like to put it in background as NT service. I got a example code: SmallestService.py from

Re: Using XML w/ Python...

2005-12-12 Thread Rick Wotnaz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Not wanting to hijack this thread, but it got me interested in installing amara. I downloaded Amara-allinone-1.0.win32-py2.4.exe and ran it. It professed that the installation directory was to be D:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\ ... but it

Re: PHP = Perl Improved

2005-12-12 Thread gene tani
Tim Roberts wrote: Xah Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: recently i got a project that involves the use of php. In 2 days, i read almost the entirety of the php doc. Finding it a breeze because it is roughly based on Perl, of which i have mastery. i felt a sensation of neatness, as if php =

How does Scons compare to distutils?

2005-12-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How does Scons compare to distutils? Should I ignore it or move to it? Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python is incredible!

2005-12-12 Thread Luis M. Gonzalez
You are not the first lisper who fell inlove with Python... Check this out: http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Newbie - BigInt

2005-12-12 Thread Jim Steil
I am trying to call a SOAP web service with python and I having success unless I need to pass a BigInteger parameter. Since python is dynamically typed it seems to be sending a regular int instead of BigInteger and my web service doesn't like that. Is there a way for me to tell my variable

Re: OO in Python? ^^

2005-12-12 Thread Donn Cave
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: Tom Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Haskell is strongly and statically typed - very strongly and very statically! Sure. However, what it's not is manifestly typed - you don't have to put the types

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-12 Thread gene tani
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], JohnBMudd wrote: Python could take over the programming world except one of it's best features (scope by indent) is a primary reason why it never will. It's not flexible enough. A large percentage of programmers won't even try the

Re: Newbie - BigInt

2005-12-12 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Jim Steil wrote I am trying to call a SOAP web service with python and I having success unless I need to pass a BigInteger parameter. Since python is dynamically typed it seems to be sending a regular int instead of BigInteger and my web service doesn't like that. Is there a way for me to

simple question on optional parameters

2005-12-12 Thread scooterm
I am using a toolkit that has a SetFaveNumbers() method. the method accepts any number of comma-separated numbers. the following are all valid examples: FooToolkit.SetFaveNumbers(1,3,5) FooToolkit.SetFaveNumbers(2,4,6,8,10) FooToolkit.SetFaveNumbers(1) I do not know how this method is

mxODBC argv sql query

2005-12-12 Thread BartlebyScrivener
This can't be the most elegant way to get a command line parameter into an sql query. It works but I can't explain why. Is there another, more correct way? Here sys.argv[1] is a topic like laugher or technology import mx.ODBC.Windows as odbc import sys driv='DRIVER={Microsoft Access Driver

Re: Python is incredible!

2005-12-12 Thread Cameron Laird
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tolga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . Actually I loved Lisp and still don't want to throw it away beacuse of my interest of artificial intelligence, but using Python is not programming, it IS a

namespace in Python?

2005-12-12 Thread Carl
What is the equivalent of a C++ (or C#) namespace in Python? Yours /Carl -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Another newbie question

2005-12-12 Thread james . moughan
Mike Meyer wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to the full set of methods which operate on the coordinate as a whole, you can operate on the individual ordinates via instance.x and instance.y which are floats. That's

Re: Python is incredible!

2005-12-12 Thread Tolga
Oh, Mr(s) Laird, you've indicated to a very important thing for me: Let's suppose that I actually want to leave Lisp totally but what about AI sources? Most of them are based on Lisp. Oh yes, yes, I know, one may study AI with any language, even with BASIC, but nearly all important AI books start

Re: simple question on optional parameters

2005-12-12 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using a toolkit that has a SetFaveNumbers() method. the method accepts any number of comma-separated numbers. any number of arguments, that is. the following are all valid examples: FooToolkit.SetFaveNumbers(1,3,5) FooToolkit.SetFaveNumbers(2,4,6,8,10)

Re: simple question on optional parameters

2005-12-12 Thread D H
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using a toolkit that has a SetFaveNumbers() method. the method accepts any number of comma-separated numbers. the following are all valid examples: FooToolkit.SetFaveNumbers(1,3,5) FooToolkit.SetFaveNumbers(2,4,6,8,10) FooToolkit.SetFaveNumbers(1) I do

Re: namespace in Python?

2005-12-12 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Carl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the equivalent of a C++ (or C#) namespace in Python? modules and packages: http://docs.python.org/tut/node8.html /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: namespace in Python?

2005-12-12 Thread Heiko Wundram
Carl wrote: What is the equivalent of a C++ (or C#) namespace in Python? Your best bet will be modules: --- a.py def test(): print I am test() from a.py b.py import a a.test() --- They are no direct match to C++-namespaces though, as the namespace doesn't show up in the

Re: Newbie - BigInt

2005-12-12 Thread Jim Steil
SOAPpy -Jim Jim Steil VP of Application Development CustomCall Data Systems (608) 274-3009 x286 Fredrik Lundh wrote: Jim Steil wrote I am trying to call a SOAP web service with python and I having success unless I need to pass a BigInteger parameter. Since python is

allow_none=True in SimpleXMLRPCServer

2005-12-12 Thread Daniel Crespo
Hello, Does anyone know which methods do I have to override for allowing Nones to be accepted and sended from SimpleXMLRPCServer to the client? Thanks Daniel -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: making fractals in python

2005-12-12 Thread Ernst Noch
evil_daffid wrote: hi, Im reseaching fractals, and how to make them in python using recursion. I've written a bit of code to make the koch isalnd but something isn't right, I have the basic shape but there's something wrong with the recursion i've used, could someone help me. Here is

Re: Documentation suggestions

2005-12-12 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:45:12 +0100, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to make it better. Maybe it could be 'item-title', from 'dc:title' by dc:creator. Then the text for your file would be 'The zlib module', from '(the eff-bot guide to) The Standard Python Library' by Fredrik

Developing a network protocol with Python

2005-12-12 Thread Laszlo Zsolt Nagy
Hello, I would like to develop a new network protocol, where the server and the clients are Python programs. I think to be effective, I need to use TCP_NODELAY, and manually buffered transfers. I would like to create a general messaging object that has methods like sendinteger recvinteger

Re: How does Scons compare to distutils?

2005-12-12 Thread John J. Lee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does Scons compare to distutils? Should I ignore it or move to it? [...] Yes. Seriously, what are you doing? distutils seems pretty ubiquitous when building Python extensions, since it has special knowledge of the Python with which it is run,

Re: Help: how to run python applications as NT service?

2005-12-12 Thread Larry Bates
zxo102 wrote: Hi there, I have a python application (many python scripts) and I start the application like this python myServer.py start in window. It is running in dos window. Now I would like to put it in background as NT service. I got a example code: SmallestService.py from

Re: Newbie - BigInt

2005-12-12 Thread Jim Steil
Found my answer. x = 1L sets x to 1 and makes it a type of Long. I tested with my web service and it works. -Jim Jim Steil VP of Application Development CustomCall Data Systems (608) 274-3009 x286 Fredrik Lundh wrote: Jim Steil wrote I am trying to call a SOAP web

Re: IsString

2005-12-12 Thread Peter Decker
On 12 Dec 2005 08:26:06 -0800, Tuvas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a function that will tell if a given variable is a character or a number. Is there a way to do this? Thanks! Use isinstance(). e.g.: x = 7 isinstance(x, int) - True isinstance(x, basestring) - False x = Hello isinstance(x,

Re: mxODBC argv sql query

2005-12-12 Thread Steve Holden
BartlebyScrivener wrote: This can't be the most elegant way to get a command line parameter into an sql query. It works but I can't explain why. Is there another, more correct way? Here sys.argv[1] is a topic like laugher or technology import mx.ODBC.Windows as odbc import sys

Re: IsString

2005-12-12 Thread Larry Bates
Tuvas wrote: I need a function that will tell if a given variable is a character or a number. Is there a way to do this? Thanks! You can test the type of the object as follows: a='abc' isinstance(a, str) True isinstance(a, (list, tuple)) False The old way was to use type(a), but I think

Re: TypeError: no arguments expected

2005-12-12 Thread shawn a
thanks for all your input. Ive gotten it to work thanks! --shawn On 12/12/05, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:00:55 -0500, shawn a [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: I havet these 2 files in the same dir.

Re: How does Scons compare to distutils?

2005-12-12 Thread Robert Kern
John J. Lee wrote: I imagine scons has some support for distutils. Not really, no. -- Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the fields of hell where the grass grows high Are the graves of dreams allowed to die. -- Richard Harter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Problem with Lexical Scope

2005-12-12 Thread Bengt Richter
On 12 Dec 2005 01:23:48 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the example code. Definately provided a few different ways of doing the construction. Actually, the status variable was the only thing that mattered for the inner function. The first code post had a bug b/c I

Re: Proposal: Inline Import

2005-12-12 Thread adam
When I'm feeling too lazy to do imports while moving large blocks of code, I use this little hack. It lets me proceed with checking whether the move does what I wanted and at the end I fix the imports and remove the try/except wrapper. I think it would achieve your desired result and not have an

sql using characters like é and ã

2005-12-12 Thread tjerk
Hello, I am switching from VB to python. I managed to crank my files into a sqlite dbase, converting the original names to unicode with s=unicode(s,latin-1). Everything is working fine, but when I query the dbase with dbapi2 and want to retrieve names this way: 'Select * from table where name like

Rpy: displaying multivariate data with pairs() and coplot()

2005-12-12 Thread malv
Did anybody manage to use pairs() or coplot() from python using the rpy module? In fact any information going a bit beyond Tim Churches' very useful examples on plot() usage in rpy would be highly welcome. Thx. malv -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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