ANN: CherryPy-2.2.0beta released

2006-01-31 Thread remi
Hi everyone, I am please to announce the first beta release of CP-2.2.0 We've started to collect changes on this page: http://www.cherrypy.org/wiki/WhatsNewIn22 (there's many more items to come). Included in this release are: - Support for multiple applications within one CherryPy process -

Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Jan 30)

2006-01-31 Thread Magnus Lycka
QOTW: [The state pattern] can be very confusing for newbies and peoples having no experience with *dynamic* languages, and I guess control-freaks and static-typing-addicts would runaway screaming. But I like it anyway !-) - bruno desthuilliers [D]ubious Python hacks that should never be used in

Reminder: reserve PyCon hotel rooms today

2006-01-31 Thread A.M. Kuchling
Last reminder: reserve your PyCon hotel rooms today! Go to http://us.pycon.org/Addison/Hotels for a link to the reservation page. After today, you can still try to book rooms at the conference rate. The hotel, however, doesn't guarantee that rooms will be available at that rate, and you may end

ANN: pynakotheka v1.0.1

2006-01-31 Thread Iñigo Serna
Hello out there, I'm really pleased to announce the second public release of Pynakotheka. Pynakotheka is a simple GPL-licensed python script which generates static HTML photo albums to be added to web sites or to be burnt in CDs. It includes some templates and it's easy to create more. It

Re: Tk.quit() now working!

2006-01-31 Thread Mikael Olofsson
Fredrik Lundh wrote: how do you run your Tkinter program ? al pacino wrote: like? i was testing it in windows (interactive interpreter) What Fredrik probably means is: Did you by any chance start it from IDLE? In that case it will not work. It doesn't for me. The reason - I've been told - is

Re: OT: Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-31 Thread Runsun Pan
From 1387-1814, a ~430 years period, that's quite a long time. About the total recountable history of Taiwan... :) In her 400 some history Taiwan has been occupied by several foreign powers, including Dutch, Tsing Dynasty from China, Japan, and KMT party from China again. The long time fight

Re: templates

2006-01-31 Thread Christoph Zwerschke
thakadu schrieb: I have used PyMeld (http://www.entrian.com/PyMeld/) which is one of very few that gives a 100% separation of code and presentation, in fact PyMeld is not strictly speaking a template system at all. Yes, it is more like XIST that I mentioned in another post. The reason why this

Re: triple quoted strings as comments

2006-01-31 Thread Duncan Booth
dmh2000 wrote: example def fun(self): doc comment comment line 2 x = 1 y = 2 does this triple quoted string used as a comment cause something to happen at runtime beyond just skipping over it? Such as allocation of memory for a string or worse

Re: beta.python.org content

2006-01-31 Thread Steve Holden
robin wrote: Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does http://beta.python.org/about/beginners/ look? There are several things wrong with the interface. First, I count seven ways of formatting a link. This is approximately five too many and can be fixed as follows. For

Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Jan 30)

2006-01-31 Thread Magnus Lycka
QOTW: [The state pattern] can be very confusing for newbies and peoples having no experience with *dynamic* languages, and I guess control-freaks and static-typing-addicts would runaway screaming. But I like it anyway !-) - bruno desthuilliers [D]ubious Python hacks that should never be used in

Re: Collecting IP range

2006-01-31 Thread Heiko Wundram
yawgmoth7 wrote: Well, since range() won't take a normal IP(Such as 127.0.0.1). and, you can't take it as 127001(Since socket.connect() won't take that). What would you suggest as a better way to approach this? Use a recipe for that. Have a look at:

test whether 2 objects are equal

2006-01-31 Thread Yves Glodt
Hello, I need to compare 2 instances of objects to see whether they are equal or not, but with the code down it does not work (it outputs not equal) #!/usr/bin/python class Test: var1 = '' var2 = '' test1 = Test() test1.var1 = 'a' test1.var2 = 'b' test2 = Test() test2.var1

Re: Costly object creation (was : Having Trouble with Scoping Rules)

2006-01-31 Thread bruno at modulix
Charles Krug wrote: List: I've a module that's not doing what I expect. My guess is that I don't quite understand the scoping rules the way I should. I have an object that's costly to create. My thought was to create it at the module level like this: (snip) What's the correct way to

Request for suggesstions and comments

2006-01-31 Thread Vivek Kumar
Hi all, I have to write a network server (sort of) and I am looking for your valuable comments. Currently I have written a prototype in VB6 but it can only handle up to 30 or so clients. I need to upgrade the application so that it can handle up to 1000-1500 clients at a time (later if every

Re: beta.python.org content

2006-01-31 Thread Fredrik Lundh
robin wrote: Overall, the look is very safe corporate. I myself would have gone for a funkier (though still elegant) look. The energy of the Python community is not being communicated. The vim of the language is diluted. This is not playing to Python's strengths. Yes, i have been known to

finding the intersection of a list of Sets

2006-01-31 Thread Suresh Jeevanandam
I have a list of sets in variable lsets . Now I want to find the intersection of all the sets. r = lsets[0] for s in r[0:]: r = r s Is there any other shorter way? Thanks in advance, Suresh -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: test whether 2 objects are equal

2006-01-31 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Yves Glodt wrote I need to compare 2 instances of objects to see whether they are equal or not, but with the code down it does not work (it outputs not equal) #!/usr/bin/python class Test: var1 = '' var2 = '' test1 = Test() test1.var1 = 'a' test1.var2 = 'b' test2 = Test()

Re: A simple question string.replace

2006-01-31 Thread bruno at modulix
Haibao Tang wrote: I have a two-column data file like this 1.12.3 2.211.1 4.31.1 ... Is it possible to substitue all '1.1' to some value else without using re. I suppose that you don't want '11.1' to be affected. raw_data= 1.12.3 2.211.1 4.31.1 data =

Re: Marked-Up Text Viewer for Python/Tkinter

2006-01-31 Thread Eric Brunel
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:20:50 -0800, James Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I'm wondering if there is something that already exists that can take marked up text in some format (hopefully reStructuredText or HTML) and can convert it into something that can be displayed with

Re: Marked-Up Text Viewer for Python/Tkinter

2006-01-31 Thread Claudio Grondi
Eric Brunel wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:20:50 -0800, James Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I'm wondering if there is something that already exists that can take marked up text in some format (hopefully reStructuredText or HTML) and can convert it into something that can be

Re: Newbie question: Unicode hiccup on reading file i just wrote

2006-01-31 Thread Darcy
Fredrik Lundh wrote: Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Just don't do any fancy encoding stuff at all, a simple rrr=xml.dom.minidom.parseString(open(tt.xml).read()) should do. or rrr = xml.dom.minidom.parse(tt.xml) thanks a lot guys -- both approaches work a treat. in particular: diez, thanks

Re: finding the intersection of a list of Sets

2006-01-31 Thread Peter Otten
Suresh Jeevanandam wrote: I have a list of sets in variable lsets . Now I want to find the intersection of all the sets. r = lsets[0] for s in r[0:]: r = r s Try to post working examples. Is there any other shorter way? sets = map(set, abc bcd cde.split())

Re: test whether 2 objects are equal

2006-01-31 Thread Rene Pijlman
Yves Glodt: I need to compare 2 instances of objects to see whether they are equal or not, This prints equal: class Test(object): def __init__(self): self.var1 = '' self.var2 = '' def __eq__(self,other): return self.var1 == other.var1 and self.var2 == other.var2

Re: Marked-Up Text Viewer for Python/Tkinter

2006-01-31 Thread Fuzzyman
I've played with grail. It does still work (basically). I needed to put the grail directory in my ``site-packages`` folder and create a 'grail.pth' file with the entry ``grail``. Extracting the Tkinter widget, and exposing an API, would be tricky - but I'm sure lots of people would use it. It's

Re: Unicode strings and ascii regular expressions

2006-01-31 Thread Fuzzyman
Fredrik Lundh wrote: Fuzzyman wrote: Can someone confirm that compiled regular expressions from ascii strings will always (and safely) yield unicode values when matched against unicode strings ? [snip..] ascii patterns work just fine on unicode strings. the engine doesn't care what

Re: VB to Python migration

2006-01-31 Thread Magnus Lycka
Josh wrote: I understand what you are saying, and I'm sure the tasks our program does could be made much cleaner. But, implementing an ERP which is basically what we have, is a large project and the users need (or maybe just want) access to lots of information. I'm not pretending to know

Re: templates

2006-01-31 Thread Peter Hansen
Christoph Zwerschke wrote: thakadu schrieb: I have used PyMeld (http://www.entrian.com/PyMeld/) which is one of very few that gives a 100% separation of code and presentation, in fact PyMeld is not strictly speaking a template system at all. Yes, it is more like XIST that I mentioned in

Re: templates

2006-01-31 Thread Richie Hindle
[Christoph] The reason why [PyMeld] is slower than native templates seems clear: You convert the whole page to objects in memory, and then serialize everything back to HTML. [Peter] Unless I'm misremembering, PyMeld is special amongst the total decoupling of code and presentation crowd

Re: Marked-Up Text Viewer for Python/Tkinter

2006-01-31 Thread André
James Stroud wrote: Hello All, I'm wondering if there is something that already exists that can take marked up text in some format (hopefully reStructuredText or HTML) and can convert it into something that can be displayed with Tkinter (maybe with Text), either dynamically or otherwise.

Re: Python vs C for a mail server

2006-01-31 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 2006-01-30, Magnus Lycka schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Donn Cave wrote: If we give him credit for having some idea of what he's talking about, then we could perhaps read his encourages as makes trivially easy. These two languages are in such different levels with introspection that it seems

Re: dynamic class instantiation

2006-01-31 Thread Ognen Duzlevski
Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ognen Duzlevski wrote: Say I got page as a string. How do I go about instantiating a class from this piece of information? To make it more obvious how do I create the page() class based on the page string I have? Use getattr(). Hi Kent, this is

Re: test whether 2 objects are equal

2006-01-31 Thread Yves Glodt
Rene Pijlman wrote: Yves Glodt: I need to compare 2 instances of objects to see whether they are equal or not, This prints equal: thank you! Have a nice day, Yves class Test(object): def __init__(self): self.var1 = '' self.var2 = '' def __eq__(self,other):

backreference in regexp

2006-01-31 Thread Schüle Daniel
X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello @all, p = re.compile(r(\d+) = \1 + 0) p.search(123 = 123 + 0) 'search' returns None but I would expect it to find 123 in

Re: backreference in regexp

2006-01-31 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Schüle Daniel wrote: Hello @all, p = re.compile(r(\d+) = \1 + 0) p.search(123 = 123 + 0) 'search' returns None but I would expect it to find 123 in group(1) Am I using something that is not supported by Python RegExp engine or what is the problem with my regexp? plus matches one or

Re: Having Trouble with Scoping Rules

2006-01-31 Thread Charles Krug
On 2006-01-31, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: def ExpensiveObject(): global _expensiveObject if _expensiveObject is None: _expensiveObject = A VERY Expensive object print CREATED VERY EXPENSIVE OBJECT return _expensiveObject

Help with XML-SAX program ... it's driving me nuts ...

2006-01-31 Thread mitsura
Hi, I need to read a simle XML file. For this I use the SAX parser. So far so good. The XML file consist out of number of Service object with each object a set of attributes. I read through the XML file and for each Service entry I create a new service object. When I am in the Service part of

Re: Help with XML-SAX program ... it's driving me nuts ...

2006-01-31 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to read a simle XML file. For this I use the SAX parser. So far so good. The XML file consist out of number of Service object with each object a set of attributes. The strange thing is that for some reason, the attributes for all the objects are being

Introspection with classes

2006-01-31 Thread Kirk McDonald
Me again! Same project as before, if you're playing along at home. The Everything Engine model (which I am blatantly copying in my project) is that everything in the engine is a 'node,' and that every node can be stored to and read from the database. Since this is the backend for a website,

Re: backreference in regexp

2006-01-31 Thread Schüle Daniel
thank you, I completely forgot that + is one of metacharacters Regards, Daniel -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

File permissions script vs shell

2006-01-31 Thread jdlists
I'm running python on windows and have a program that watches a directory and acts on files as they come into the directory. After processing is complete, i delete the file, or in this case attempt to In the script version I repeatedly get OSError exceptions stating permission denied when

Re: Costly object creation (was : Having Trouble with Scoping Rules)

2006-01-31 Thread Charles Krug
On 2006-01-31, bruno at modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See other answers in this thread for how to solve the UnboundLocalError problem. Now about your *real* problem - which is nothing new -, you may want to read about some known solutions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singleton_pattern

Re: simple perl program in python gives errors

2006-01-31 Thread morris carre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I am a little annoyed at why such a simple program in Perl is causing so much difficulty for python, i.e: $a += 20 * 14; print $a; a = 20 * 14 print a where's the problem ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Help with XML-SAX program ... it's driving me nuts ...

2006-01-31 Thread mitsura
Thanks for the feedback! I will certainly look at the elementtree stuff (I am new to Python so I still need to find my way around) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: File permissions script vs shell

2006-01-31 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running python on windows and have a program that watches a directory and acts on files as they come into the directory. After processing is complete, i delete the file, or in this case attempt to In the script version I repeatedly get OSError exceptions

quoting strings

2006-01-31 Thread Michal Duda
Hi, is any equivalent to perl quotemeta function in python? I know that I can use this on string: r'\\test' but I need to do this on the variable Thanks in advance Michal -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: quoting strings

2006-01-31 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Michal Duda wrote: is any equivalent to perl quotemeta function in python? s = re.escape(s) I know that I can use this on string: r'\\test' but I need to do this on the variable your example is a string literal, which isn't really the same thing as a RE pattern in Python. /F --

Re: templates

2006-01-31 Thread has
Christoph Zwerschke wrote: thakadu schrieb: I have used PyMeld (http://www.entrian.com/PyMeld/) which is one of very few that gives a 100% separation of code and presentation, in fact PyMeld is not strictly speaking a template system at all. Yes, it is more like XIST that I mentioned in

Re: triple quoted strings as comments

2006-01-31 Thread Jeffrey Schwab
Steve Holden wrote: dmh2000 wrote: I recently complained elsewhere that Python doesn't have multiline comments. Personally I think it's a win that you couldn't find anything more serious to complain about :-) +1 QOTW -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: determinant

2006-01-31 Thread Tuvas
I am using Windows, using Python 2.4. Perhaps I just did the import statement wrong? I've never installed a library in Windows before, perhaps I did something wrong there too.. But anyways, it just doesn't seem to work. The import statements were: import Matrix, LinearAlgebra Neither seem to

Re: test whether 2 objects are equal

2006-01-31 Thread bruno at modulix
Yves Glodt wrote: Hello, I need to compare 2 instances of objects to see whether they are equal or not, but with the code down it does not work (it outputs not equal) #!/usr/bin/python class Test: var1 = '' var2 = '' Take care, this creates two *class* variables var1 and

Re: determinant

2006-01-31 Thread Tuvas
Never mind, I realized I was using a bit of code way too old. I just needed to change the import statements to: import numpy.matrix import numpy.linalg Thanks for the help! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: about spawn flag

2006-01-31 Thread Sinan Nalkaya
thank you but also i need a pid.also react like an os.P_NOWAIT. if i summarize, child proccess immediately returns the pid, if child exits also returns the exit/error code :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: about spawn flag

2006-01-31 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Sinan Nalkaya wrote: thank you but also i need a pid.also react like an os.P_NOWAIT. if i summarize, child proccess immediately returns the pid, if child exits also returns the exit/error code :) import subprocess http://docs.python.org/lib/module-subprocess.html /F --

Re: test whether 2 objects are equal

2006-01-31 Thread Yves Glodt
bruno at modulix wrote: Yves Glodt wrote: Hello, I need to compare 2 instances of objects to see whether they are equal or not, but with the code down it does not work (it outputs not equal) #!/usr/bin/python class Test: var1 = '' var2 = '' Take care, this creates two

Omniorb event channel question

2006-01-31 Thread Attila Rajmund Nohl
Hello! I'm using python 2.3.5 on Linux with omniORB 2.6. I'm trying to create an object that shall listen on an event channel, but the registration doesn't work. My code is: class EventListener(CosEventComm.PushConsumer): def __init__(self): pass def push(self, data):

Re: File permissions script vs shell

2006-01-31 Thread jdlists
Fredrik Lundh wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running python on windows and have a program that watches a directory and acts on files as they come into the directory. After processing is complete, i delete the file, or in this case attempt to In the script version I

Re: templates

2006-01-31 Thread thakadu
I would like to give a few more specifics about my benchmarking. The web page had about 10 simple fields and a table of roughly 30 table rows. The method of generation the table rows was exactly the same as the example in the PyMeld documentation ie you create the Meld, you make a copy of a

Re: Omniorb event channel question

2006-01-31 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
channel = orb.getRootInterface(channelname) chadmin = channel.for_consumers() supplier = chadmin.obtain_push_supplier() listener = EventListener() supplier.connect_push_consumer(listener) Not sure, but I guess you want a listener._this() here. Diez --

Re: simple perl program in python gives errors

2006-01-31 Thread Dan Lowe
On Jan 31, 2006, at 8:28 AM, morris carre wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : $a += 20 * 14; print $a; a = 20 * 14 print a where's the problem ? Not sure if you typo'd that, but that should read: a += 20 * 14 print a -dan -- I am not a vegetarian because I

Re: Fuzzy Lookups

2006-01-31 Thread Gregory Piñero
Thanks for that, I'll have a look. (So many packages, so little time...) Yes, there's a standard library for everything it seems! Except for a MySQL api :-( I wrote a script to delete duplicate mp3's by filename a few years back with this. If anyone's interested in seeing it, I'll post a

Re: templates

2006-01-31 Thread Richie Hindle
[thakadu] The method of generation the table rows was exactly the same as the example in the PyMeld documentation Did you try using toFormatString() to speed it up? See http://www.entrian.com/PyMeld/doco.html -- Richie Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Re: finding the intersection of a list of Sets

2006-01-31 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Peter Otten] sets = map(set, abc bcd cde.split()) reduce(set.intersection, sets) set(['c']) Very nice. Here's a refinement: sets.sort(key=len) reduce(set.intersection, sets[1:], sets[0]) set(['c']) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Mail Delivery (failure [EMAIL PROTECTED])

2006-01-31 Thread info
Hemos recibido su correo, en breve nos pondremos en contacto con ustedes. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: templates

2006-01-31 Thread has
thakadu wrote: I did not try PyMeldLite because the HTML I am using is exactlty that: HTML and not XHTML. FWIW, HTMLTemplate is pretty lax and not restricted to XHTML. The only XML-ish requirement is that elements need to be properly closed if they're to be used as template nodes, e.g. p

Re: determinant

2006-01-31 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Tuvas] I am trying to find a nice function that quickly determines the determanant in python. Anyone have any recommendations? I've heard about numpy, but I can't get it to work (It doesn't seem to like the import Matrix statement...). Thanks!

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2006-01-31 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Hello, I have a real newbie question here. New to Python, and am trying to learn it on Mac and WinXP. On the Mac I find Python already installed and I downloaded the package. I tested the version in Terminal by typing 'python' and get Python 2.3.5 (#1, Mar 20 2005, 20:38:20). - Looks fine

Re: indentation messing up my tuple?

2006-01-31 Thread infidel
tuple is the name of the built-in type, so it's not a very good idea to reassign it to something else. (food + drink + '\n') is not a tuple, (food + drink + '\n',) is There's no reason to use tuples here, just do this: data.append(food + drink) f.write('\n'.join(data)) --

Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-01-31 Thread Steven Watanabe
I know that the standard idioms for clearing a list are: (1) mylist[:] = [] (2) del mylist[:] I guess I'm not in the slicing frame of mind, as someone put it, but can someone explain what the difference is between these and: (3) mylist = [] Why are (1) and (2) preferred? I think the

Re: templates

2006-01-31 Thread thakadu
Yes I looked at that but I did not benchmark it. Basically it seems to convert the Meld or part of a Meld into a %s template in any case and I already knew that %s performace was very good. So if I had used PyMeld combined with %s then sure it would be much faster but I wanted to benchmark a pure

Re: Python vs C for a mail server

2006-01-31 Thread Randall Parker
Alex Martelli wrote: The but without declaration it can't be self-documenting issue is a red herring. Reading, e.g.: int zappolop(int frep) { ... gives me no _useful_ self-documenting information about the role and meaning of frep, or zappolop's result. The code's author must obviously

psycopg2

2006-01-31 Thread Jane Goldman
Hello, I bigginer Python programmer. I am working on web application that access PostgreSQL on backend. After I imported PSYCOPG2 module in my program I started to get unwanded debug output into my web bowser. It is something like that: initpsycopg: initializing psycopg 2.0b6.2 (dec dt ext

Re: Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-01-31 Thread Tim Chase
I know that the standard idioms for clearing a list are: (1) mylist[:] = [] (2) del mylist[:] I guess I'm not in the slicing frame of mind, as someone put it, but can someone explain what the difference is between these and: (3) mylist = [] Why are (1) and (2) preferred? I

Re: path to python in WinXP

2006-01-31 Thread Tim Chase
I have a real newbie question here. Well, as a starter, it would be helpful if you included a Subject: line in your mail...my spam filters flagged it and I almost tossed it in my bit-bucket because the subject was empty. :*) On WinXP I open a command line and type 'python' and get 'PYTHON'

Re: templates

2006-01-31 Thread thakadu
I haven't got around to trying HTMLTemplate yet but it is on my list of things to do. It would be great to see how it compares in perfomance and simplicity to PyMeld and other DOM approaches. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python vs C for a mail server

2006-01-31 Thread Randall Parker
Jay, The point of doing compile time and test time checking is the same reason militaries use layered defenses: More problems get caught. I've written tons of software tests and architected a testing system for an entire aircraft. I've also watched lots of errors get by tests. Also, compile time

Re: StringIO proposal: add __iadd__

2006-01-31 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Raymond Hettinger] The StringIO API needs to closely mirror the file object API. Do you want to change everything that is filelike to have += as a synonym for write()? [Paul Rubin] Why would they need that? Polymorphism StringIO objects have getvalue() but other file-like objects

Re: finding the intersection of a list of Sets

2006-01-31 Thread Raymond Hettinger
That should have been: sets.sort(key=len) reduce(set.intersection, sets) The only refinement was the pre-sort based on set length. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python vs C for a mail server

2006-01-31 Thread Peter Hansen
Randall Parker wrote: The point of doing compile time and test time checking is the same reason militaries use layered defenses: More problems get caught. I've written tons of software tests and architected a testing system for an entire aircraft. I've also watched lots of errors get by tests.

Re: Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-01-31 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Steven Watanabe wrote: I know that the standard idioms for clearing a list are: (1) mylist[:] = [] (2) del mylist[:] I guess I'm not in the slicing frame of mind, as someone put it, but can someone explain what the difference is between these and: (3) mylist = [] Why are (1)

PyGILState_Release + Python2.3 = Segmentation Fault

2006-01-31 Thread Kirill Simonov
Hi, Could someone tell me why my extension module works under Python 2.4, but fails with Segmentation Fault under Python 2.3? Here is the stripped version: #include Python.h static PyObject * test_gil(PyObject *self) { PyGILState_STATE gs;

Re: Python vs C for a mail server

2006-01-31 Thread Jay Parlar
Randall Parker wrote: Alex Martelli wrote: The but without declaration it can't be self-documenting issue is a red herring. Reading, e.g.: int zappolop(int frep) { ... gives me no _useful_ self-documenting information about the role and meaning of frep, or zappolop's result. The code's

Unicode Support for ConfigObj (config file reader) Now in SVN

2006-01-31 Thread Fuzzyman
Hello All, I've added (optional) unicode support for ConfigObj. This is now available from SVN. You can specify an encoding to decode the config file on reading. This maps to an encoding attribute on the ConfigObj instance that is also used for writing (and can be changed). You can find it in

Re: Request for suggesstions and comments

2006-01-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, the advice is free, so tkae it for what it's worth. Q. Is it possible to write an application for this kind of server activity in Python? I mean whether Python will be suitable for this kind of high activity load, real time app? - Absolutely, Look at Zope or Cheetah for examples of fairly

DispatchWithEvents PumpWaitingMessages

2006-01-31 Thread puff
I'm working on a com automation project involving IE (yes, I know about Pamie). I connect to IE through DispatchWithEvents, start a navigation, and then loop calling PumpWaitingMessages. I see the events OK and all is well. At some point it is clear that the navigation is complete (at least

Re: wxPython Conventions

2006-01-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm also fairly new to wxPython, but I've done GUI's in a variety of languages.I'm not sure about putting the systray - haven't had to do it. But your second question, put it in it's own class. For desktop apps I almost allways do a limited M/V/C pattern - M/VC - ok so I mung the view and

import datetime

2006-01-31 Thread shaboo
Hi Guys, I have just installed Python2.4.2 on our HP-UX system. But when I try to import datetime modlue I get the following error ~~~ from datetime import datetime Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in ? ImportError: No module named datetime

Re: Python vs C for a mail server

2006-01-31 Thread Jens Theisen
Jay wrote: You can do both, but why? *Especially* in a language like C++, where thanks to pointers and casting, there really isn't any type safety anyway. How much time in your C/C++ code is spent casting and trying to trick the compiler into doing something that it thinks you shouldn't be

Re: Python vs C for a mail server

2006-01-31 Thread Jens Theisen
Paul wrote: Or should I be looking for some other context here? Three people were looking at the wrong one, thanks for putting this right. I really should not have given my point that briefly. Jens -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python vs C for a mail server

2006-01-31 Thread Randall Parker
But languages that share some weakness typically do not share it equally. Three languages can have some way to do X (which some might find undesirable while others find it great) but two of the languages might make it easy to solve problems without ever doing X while the third language might make

Re: Fuzzy Lookups

2006-01-31 Thread Kent Johnson
Gregory Piñero wrote: Ok, ok, I got it! The Pythonic way is to use an existing library ;-) import difflib CloseMatches=difflib.get_close_matches(AFileName,AllFiles,20,.7) I wrote a script to delete duplicate mp3's by filename a few years back with this. If anyone's interested in seeing

Re: Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-01-31 Thread Xavier Morel
Steven Watanabe wrote: I know that the standard idioms for clearing a list are: (1) mylist[:] = [] (2) del mylist[:] I guess I'm not in the slicing frame of mind, as someone put it, but can someone explain what the difference is between these and: (3) mylist = [] Why are (1)

Re: Fuzzy Lookups

2006-01-31 Thread Gregory Piñero
I wonder which algorithm determines the similarity between two strings better? On 1/31/06, Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gregory Piñero wrote: Ok, ok, I got it! The Pythonic way is to use an existing library ;-) import difflib

Re: Jython on the Palm OS?

2006-01-31 Thread gregarican
Khalid Zuberi wrote: While someone has recently done some work to get Jython working with J2ME (reference below), I think its targetted at Pocket PC class devices (CDC spec) as opposed to palm (CLDC as far as i know). http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.jython.devel/1826 Thanks for

Why checksum? [was Re: Fuzzy Lookups]

2006-01-31 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:51:44 -0500, Gregory Piñero wrote: http://www.blendedtechnologies.com/removing-duplicate-mp3s-with-python-a-naive-yet-fuzzy-approach/60 If anyone would be kind enough to improve it I'd love to have these features but I'm swamped this week! - MD5 checking for find

Re: Why checksum? [was Re: Fuzzy Lookups]

2006-01-31 Thread Paul Rubin
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This isn't a criticism, it is a genuine question. Why do people compare local files with MD5 instead of doing a byte-to-byte compare? Is it purely a caching thing (once you have the checksum, you don't need to read the file again)? Are there any other

Re: Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-01-31 Thread bearophileHUGS
Diez B. Roggisch: The reason is that l = [] just rebinds a new object (a list, but it could be anything) to a name, while l[:] = [] will alter the object _referred_ to by l. That is a HUGE difference! In my programs I have seen that there is another practical difference between version 1 and

Re: Python module for LX200 telescope command set

2006-01-31 Thread Alan Kennedy
[RayS] I've begun a Python module to provide a complete interface to the Meade LX200 command set: and History: after searching for such a thing, I had found only:

ANN: pynakotheka v1.0.1

2006-01-31 Thread Iñigo Serna
Hello out there, I'm really pleased to announce the second public release of Pynakotheka. Pynakotheka is a simple GPL-licensed python script which generates static HTML photo albums to be added to web sites or to be burnt in CDs. It includes some templates and it's easy to create more. It

Re: import datetime

2006-01-31 Thread Lee Harr
I have just installed Python2.4.2 on our HP-UX system. But when I try to import datetime modlue I get the following error ~~~ from datetime import datetime Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in ? ImportError: No module named datetime

Re: VB to Python migration

2006-01-31 Thread Josh
Magnus Lycka wrote: I suppose that you need to present a lot of differnt kinds of data, and that you need to provide various search parameters etc for different data sets, but this sounds like something that might be very few screens that adapt to some kind of meta-data, perhaps XML

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