Fifth Python Game Programming Challenge in September

2007-07-15 Thread richard
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Re: Lists in classes

2007-07-15 Thread Alex Popescu
On Jul 13, 6:02 am, Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Popescu a écrit : (snip) You are defining the list in the class context and so it becomes a class field/member. 'attribute' is the pythonic term. Thanks! I'm just a couple of weeks Python old, so I am still fighting

Re: Can a low-level programmer learn OOP?

2007-07-15 Thread bonnie
On Jul 13, 3:20 pm, Wayne Brehaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 06:01:56 +0200, Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Carlen a écrit : Hi: From what I've read of OOP, I don't get it. I have also found some articles profoundly critical of OOP. I tend to

Re: Trying to choose between python and java

2007-07-15 Thread Alex Popescu
I read in this thread lots of different (hopefully personal) opinions on the question of Java vs Python, so I thought I will post mines too (with the amendment that I am a Java guy, spending there more than 10 years). I don't think you can do a performance comparison upfront (without having it

Re: Re-raising exceptions with modified message

2007-07-15 Thread Christoph Zwerschke
samwyse wrote: NewStyle.__name__ = old.__class__.__name__ Simple, but that does the trick! new.__dict__ = old.__dict__.copy() Unfortunately, that does not work, since the attributes are not writeable and thus do not appear in __dict__. But my __getattr__ solution does not work either,

Re: Re-raising exceptions with modified message

2007-07-15 Thread Christoph Zwerschke
Christoph Zwerschke wrote: But my __getattr__ solution does not work either, since the attributes are set to None when initialized, so __getattr__ is never called. Here is a simple solution, but it depends on the existence of the args attribute that will eventually be deprecated according to

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2007-07-15 Thread Navid Parvini
Dear All, I want to create a standalone program ( an exe file ) from my python files which works on Windows and Linux. Could you please tell me how to do that? Thank you in advance, Navid - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for

Re: Re-raising exceptions with modified message

2007-07-15 Thread Christoph Zwerschke
Christoph Zwerschke wrote: Here is a simple solution, but it depends on the existence of the args attribute that will eventually be deprecated according to the docs: Ok, here is another solution that does not depend on args: def PoliteException(e): E = e.__class__ class

Re: standalone module

2007-07-15 Thread Daniel Nogradi
I want to create a standalone program ( an exe file ) from my python files which works on Windows and Linux. Could you please tell me how to do that? The same executable should work on both linux and windows? Not possible. But see:

Re: Re-raising exceptions with modified message

2007-07-15 Thread Christoph Zwerschke
Christoph Zwerschke wrote: Here is a simple solution, but it depends on the existence of the args attribute that will eventually be deprecated according to the docs: Just found another amazingly simple solution that does neither use teh .args (docs: will eventually be deprecated) attribute

Font used in Logo

2007-07-15 Thread ddwagnz
Hi, I'm just wondering why Python did not choose a free font that they can redistribute with the logo instead of a commercial font which puts limitations on distrubiting the font to the public im not exactly sure where to put this, i was told to send a thing to the list so excuse me if ive got

Re: Circular import problem

2007-07-15 Thread Alex Popescu
On Jul 14, 6:27 am, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:24:57 -0300, bvdp [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Seehttp://effbot.org/zone/import-confusion.htm Try to move the circular references later in the code (maybe inside a function, when it is required), or

Re: Getting values out of a CSV

2007-07-15 Thread Steve Holden
Alex Popescu wrote: On Jul 14, 5:55 am, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, as always, one should measure in each specific case if optimization is worth the pain [...]. I hope I am somehow misreading the above sentence :-). IMO synonim language contructs should result in the

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Re: CSV without first line?

2007-07-15 Thread Steve Holden
Sebastian Bassi wrote: Hi, In my CSV file, the first line has the name of the variables. So the data I want to parse resides from line 2 up to the end. Here is what I do: import csv lines=csv.reader(open(MYFILE)) lines.next() #this is just to avoid the first line for line in lines:

Re: zipfile 2GB problems?

2007-07-15 Thread Jim
On Jul 14, 10:35 pm, xamdam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi fellas, I am experiencing problems reading a 2GB zipfile consisting of multiple zipped files. I found a threadhttp://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-April/053027.html that mentions a problem on the writing side, does such a

building directpython application with py2exe

2007-07-15 Thread ...:::JA:::...
Hello, I have problem with building directpython ( .exe ) application , actually when I finish building application and when I run it, in log file I get an error: Traceback (most recent call last): File sampleMeshAnim.py, line 16, in ? ImportError: No module named d3d I was copy d3d.py and

Re: CSV without first line?

2007-07-15 Thread Sebastian Bassi
On 7/15/07, John Machin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you imagine that there is an undocumented feature? No, I just think that is documented but I am not able to understand it. Reading the list I've learned several things that are not directly inferred from documentation (that is not the same as

Dict Help

2007-07-15 Thread Robert Rawlins
Hello Guys, I'm looking for some help expanding on a dictionary I've got and storing multiple values per key and the best way to do it. I'm guessing that I need to store a list inside the value of the dictionary, but I'm not quite sure how that can be achieved, and also how to check for

Python and Tkinter Primer/Tutorial?

2007-07-15 Thread W. Watson
Is there a primer out there on these two items? I have the Python tutorial, but would like either a Tkinter tutorial/primer to supplement it, or a primer/tutorial that addresses both. Maybe there's even an O'Reilly book on both? -- Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)

Re: Python and Tkinter Primer/Tutorial?

2007-07-15 Thread Kevin Walzer
W. Watson wrote: Is there a primer out there on these two items? I have the Python tutorial, but would like either a Tkinter tutorial/primer to supplement it, or a primer/tutorial that addresses both. Maybe there's even an O'Reilly book on both? These are good resources:

in a bit of a quandary about an SMTP receiver

2007-07-15 Thread Eric S. Johansson
I have wasted way too much time on this problem already and I'm hoping it's just that I'm missing some bit of information somewhere. I need an SMTP receiver so I can handle filter requests from a postfix mail server. the asyncore version works fine for one request at a time. This is great

Re: zipfile 2GB problems?

2007-07-15 Thread Steve Holden
Jim wrote: On Jul 14, 10:35 pm, xamdam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi fellas, I am experiencing problems reading a 2GB zipfile consisting of multiple zipped files. I found a threadhttp://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-April/053027.html that mentions a problem on the writing side,

Re: Getting values out of a CSV

2007-07-15 Thread Alex Popescu
On Jul 15, 3:00 pm, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Popescu wrote: On Jul 14, 5:55 am, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, as always, one should measure in each specific case if optimization is worth the pain [...]. I hope I am somehow misreading the above

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Re: Python Subprocess module

2007-07-15 Thread Noah
On Jul 13, 2:15 pm, Dave Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey folks, A simple question hopefully. despite all my searching I have not found a satisfactory response. The goal. Interact with a command line program. Simple enough, but the key is INTERACT. You need Pexpect. So then I went

Re: Python and Tkinter Primer/Tutorial?

2007-07-15 Thread BartlebyScrivener
On Jul 15, 9:46 am, W. Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a primer out there on these two items? I have the Python tutorial, but would like either a Tkinter tutorial/primer to supplement it, or a primer/tutorial that addresses both. http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/tutgui.htm

Re: Can a low-level programmer learn OOP?

2007-07-15 Thread Wayne Brehaut
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:47:20 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 3:20 pm, Wayne Brehaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 06:01:56 +0200, Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Carlen a écrit : Hi: From what I've read of OOP, I don't get it. I have also

Re: zipfile 2GB problems?

2007-07-15 Thread xamdam
On Jul 15, 12:35 am, xamdam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi fellas, I am experiencing problems reading a 2GB zipfile consisting of multiple zipped files. I found a thread http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-April/053027.html that mentions a problem on the writing side, does such a

Re: Dict Help

2007-07-15 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:39:24 -0300, Robert Rawlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I'm looking for some help expanding on a dictionary I've got and storing multiple values per key and the best way to do it. I'm guessing that I need to store a list inside the value of the dictionary, but I'm

RE: Dict Help

2007-07-15 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Thanks Gabriel, That all works a charm, Iteration on this isn’t important for me so the SET will work much better I think, I had read about them before but have never used them, I'm glad to see it works so simply. Thanks, Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: zipfile 2GB problems?

2007-07-15 Thread xamdam
Hi, I use PKZIP V9.00 and maintain a 2.5GB zipfile that consists of over 6,600 zipped files. There is no problem with reading or writing. Thanks, Jim Which version of Python? What platform? thanks, max -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: zipfile 2GB problems?

2007-07-15 Thread Steve Holden
xamdam wrote: On Jul 15, 12:35 am, xamdam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi fellas, I am experiencing problems reading a 2GB zipfile consisting of multiple zipped files. I found a thread http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-April/053027.html that mentions a problem on the writing

Re: Can a low-level programmer learn OOP?

2007-07-15 Thread Paddy
On Jul 13, 5:06 pm, Chris Carlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Christopher Problem: 1. How to most easily learn to write simple PC GUI programs that will send data to remote embedded devices via serial comms, and perhaps incorporate some basic (x,y) type graphics display and manipulation

Re: zipfile 2GB problems?

2007-07-15 Thread xamdam
Additional info: my file is from a data provider, do not know what they used to compress it. Previous files worked ok, this one is the 1st over 2GB. Winzip has no problem with it. It could be you are using a Python with an in-built limit of 2GB on file size. What happens if you open the

Re: Circular import problem

2007-07-15 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:49:54 -0300, Alex Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: But, I still don't understand how python can access a function in a file I have NOT included. In this case, to get things to work, I DO NOT import MMA.grooves but later in the module I access a function with

Access Object From 2 Applications or Fix Scheduler

2007-07-15 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Hello Guys, I have two applications which I need to get talking and sharing an object, what's the best way to do this? Basically my first application parses an XML document into a bunch of lists and tuples etc, and I need to access the data in these lists and tuples from my second application.

Re: 2**2**2**2**2 wrong? Bug?

2007-07-15 Thread Wayne Brehaut
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:27:13 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 1:20 pm, Wayne Brehaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:51:25 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 9, 11:42?pm, Paul McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 9,

Re: 2**2**2**2**2 wrong? Bug?

2007-07-15 Thread Wayne Brehaut
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:32:03 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 2:52 pm, Wayne Brehaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:30:16 -0700, Paul McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 1:20 pm, Wayne Brehaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul

Re: 2**2**2**2**2 wrong? Bug?

2007-07-15 Thread Steve Holden
Wayne Brehaut wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:32:03 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] But I digress (but only because provoked!)... [for purposes of this argument, at least] This statement is the informal equivalent to saying Define a base-1 number system as..., as I noted above. If you'd

Re: zipfile 2GB problems?

2007-07-15 Thread Steve Holden
xamdam wrote: Additional info: my file is from a data provider, do not know what they used to compress it. Previous files worked ok, this one is the 1st over 2GB. Winzip has no problem with it. It could be you are using a Python with an in-built limit of 2GB on file size. What happens if you

Re: 2**2**2**2**2 wrong? Bug?

2007-07-15 Thread Wayne Brehaut
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:37:13 -0400, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne Brehaut wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:32:03 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] But I digress (but only because provoked!)... [for purposes of this argument, at least] This statement is the informal equivalent to

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Re: Circular import problem

2007-07-15 Thread Alex Popescu
On Jul 15, 10:08 pm, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:49:54 -0300, Alex Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: But, I still don't understand how python can access a function in a file I have NOT included. In this case, to get things to work, I DO NOT

Re: Can a low-level programmer learn OOP?

2007-07-15 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you just want to enter some values and set some flags and then hit go, you could always program the GUI in HTML and have a cgi script process the result. This has a lot of benefits that are frequently overlooked but tend

Re: Pass by reference or by value?

2007-07-15 Thread Aahz
[posted and e-mailed] [top-posting because I want to make only a one-line response] Please stick this on a web-page somewhere -- it makes an excellent counterpoint to http://starship.python.net/crew/mwh/hacks/objectthink.html http://effbot.org/zone/python-objects.htm In article [EMAIL

Re: 2**2**2**2**2 wrong? Bug?

2007-07-15 Thread Ben Finney
Wayne Brehaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:32:03 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can call Roman Numerals a Tally System of Radix 1. I can call it what I want--within reason--so long as those I'm mainly addressing understand what I mean and the

Re: Python Subprocess module

2007-07-15 Thread Josiah Carlson
Dave Sampson wrote: I am supposed to be able to entre 'y' and return for the program to continue if I agree with what I see in the stdout. A problem exists though that I have tried 'y' 'y\n' 'y\r' Depending on the platform, you may need to send '\r\n'. ASPN Python cookbok provided

Re: pattern match !

2007-07-15 Thread Asun Friere
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Re: Marshalling big objects

2007-07-15 Thread Josiah Carlson
Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:04:21 -0300, Orlando Döhring [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I want to marshal objects: - http://docs.python.org/lib/module-marshal.html where I have problems with a bigger objects, e.g. Any specific reason you use this module? As a general

Accessing Python variables in an extension module

2007-07-15 Thread MD
Hi, I would like to access variables defined in my Python program in a C module extension for Python. Is this possible? I looked at the Python C API reference but didn't find anything there that could help me. Thanks in advance for any help/tips. Regards, -MD --

Re: Accessing Python variables in an extension module

2007-07-15 Thread Alex Martelli
MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to access variables defined in my Python program in a C module extension for Python. Is this possible? I looked at the Python C API reference but didn't find anything there that could help me. If they're global variables of a certain module

How to determine which method was used in an inheritance heirarchy?

2007-07-15 Thread Erik Jones
Say you're given a call event frame for a method call. How can you tell if the code being executed came from a super class of the object or class the method was called on? Erik Jones Software Developer | Emma® [EMAIL PROTECTED] 800.595.4401 or 615.292.5888 615.292.0777 (fax) Emma helps

Re: Right tool and method to strip off html files (python, sed, awk?)

2007-07-15 Thread sebzzz
Thank you guys for all the good advice. All be working on defining a clearer problem (I think this advice is good for all areas of life). I appreciate the help, the python community looks really open to learners and beginners, hope to be helping people myself in not too long from now (well,

Re: How to determine which method was used in an inheritance heirarchy?

2007-07-15 Thread Michele Simionato
On Jul 16, 5:51 am, Erik Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say you're given a call event frame for a method call. How can you tell if the code being executed came from a super class of the object or class the method was called on? Erik Jones You look if the method was defined in

determining the source code and module based on the class

2007-07-15 Thread alf
Hi, Let's say I have a class defined somewhere: class A: pass now I import (indirectly) a module defining that class (and in fact thousands of others defined in hundreds of modules) where all I have is a list of them provided: l=[A,B,C] now I need a piece of code which based on the

Fetching a clean copy of a changing web page

2007-07-15 Thread John Nagle
I'm reading the PhishTank XML file of active phishing sites, at http://data.phishtank.com/data/online-valid/; This changes frequently, and it's big (about 10MB right now) and on a busy server. So once in a while I get a bogus copy of the file because the file was rewritten while being sent by

Re: Trying to choose between python and java

2007-07-15 Thread Alex Martelli
James T. Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... You can start writing all your code now as: print() --- calling the statement as if it were a function. Then you're future Python ...except that your output format will thereby become disgusting...: name = 'Alex' print 'Hello', name, 'and

Re: how to implementation latent semantic indexing in python..

2007-07-15 Thread Alex Martelli
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Re: How to determine which method was used in an inheritance heirarchy?

2007-07-15 Thread Erik Jones
On Jul 15, 2007, at 11:23 PM, Michele Simionato wrote: On Jul 16, 5:51 am, Erik Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say you're given a call event frame for a method call. How can you tell if the code being executed came from a super class of the object or class the method was called on? Erik

[ python-Bugs-1754453 ] Docstring for codecs.lookup is incorrect

2007-07-15 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1754453, was opened at 2007-07-15 17:13 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=105470aid=1754453group_id=5470 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of

[ python-Bugs-1754456 ] yield causes strange behaviour

2007-07-15 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1754456, was opened at 2007-07-16 00:17 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=105470aid=1754456group_id=5470 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of

[ python-Bugs-1752539 ] RotatingFileHandler.doRollover behave wrong vs. log4j's

2007-07-15 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1752539, was opened at 2007-07-12 18:34 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by jinq0123 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=105470aid=1752539group_id=5470 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment