On Jan 3, 8:53 pm, Bryan Olson wrote:
> If we add a parameter for the length of the list to which the slice is
> applied, then inslice() is well-defined.
Cool!
> I thought it would easy to write,
Heh, I gave up on the example I mentioned above :)
> but that was hours ago when I knew
> less abo
I'm answering both John and Aaron's comments in the following. Mostly
John at the start, Aaron toward the end.
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:42:47 -0800, Aaron Brady wrote:
> On Jan 3, 11:25 am, John O'Hagan wrote:
[...]
> > >According to this, when you replace every floorboard on a porch, one
> >
Since we are on the subject of Rock, Paper, Scissors. I've recntly watched
this one video on how to make a .deb out of .py files and the tutor was
using a rock, paper scissors game.
Not sure how this may come of use to you but, I'll post it anyway for you to
look at. May help somehow.
http://www.
Just wanted to share some experience I had in doing some memory and
performance tuning of a graphics script. I've been running some long-
running scripts on high-resolution images, and added memoizing to
optimize/minimize object creation (my objects are immutable, so better
to reuse objects from a
On Jan 3, 10:15�pm, vk wrote:
> > AFAIK not. You could try elmer
>
> Elmer looks very interesting, but not really what I was getting at.
>
> > What do you need C for anyway? Or, to put it the other way round - why
> > not expose whatever you need in C as python extension, and write your
> > app in
On Jan 4, 4:59 am, Bryan Olson wrote:
> koranth...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I am creating an application and it creates ~1-2 threads every second
> > and kill it within 10 seconds. After reading this I am worried. Is
> > creating a thread a very costly operation?
>
> Compared to a procedure call it's
> AFAIK not. You could try elmer
Elmer looks very interesting, but not really what I was getting at.
> What do you need C for anyway? Or, to put it the other way round - why
> not expose whatever you need in C as python extension, and write your
> app in Python?
I'm not looking to write a Python
Gandalf wrote:
>
>I'm trying to capture the text word under the user cursor,
>so I was searching the win32 lib for functions I can use.
You should know that, in the general case, this is impossible. Remember
that the screen image you are looking at is just a big array of dots. If
the window und
Hi everyone,
I'm learning python to get a multiplayer roleplaying game up and
running.
I didn't see any simple examples of multiplayer games on the web so I
thought I'd post mine here. I choose Rock, Paper, Scissors as a first
game to experiment with as the game logic/options are easy to
impleme
On Jan 3, 8:47 pm, 叮叮当当 wrote:
> Now， the 3.0 version is out for a time.
>
> I wonder when the python 3.1 is out, and what change is in python 3.1.
There's no schedule yet. Hopefully, one will come into being around
PyCon.
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Tim Roberts wrote:
Scott David Daniels wrote:
I avoid using single-letter variables except where I know the types
from the name (so I use i, j, k, l, m, n as integers, s as string,
and w, x, y, and z I am a little looser with (but usually float or
complex).
It's amazing to me that Fortran con
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:14:14 -0800, mario wrote:
> On Jan 3, 7:16 am, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote:
[...]
>> I must say though, your choice of builtins to prohibit seems rather
>> arbitrary. What is dangerous about (e.g.) id() and isinstance()?
>
> Preventive, probably. I also feel
On Jan 1, 3:55Â am, Roger wrote:
> On Dec 31, 12:55Â pm, Xah Lee wrote:
>
> > Just spent 3 hours looking into Ruby today. Here's my short impression
> > for those interested.
>
> Who are you?
>
> In case no one tells you, you are a cocky, egotistical windbag with
> opinions that border constructi
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:19:58 +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> But indeed, you obviously cannot add strings with numerics nor
> concatenate numerics with strings. This would make no sense.
The OP comes from a Perl background, which AFAIK allows you to concat
numbers to strings and add strings
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:34:11 -0800, Mark Dickinson wrote:
> On Jan 3, 9:27 pm, Mark Dickinson wrote:
>> Decimal.from_float() implemented by Raymond Hettinger for Python 2.7
>> and Python 3.1, within 72 hours of Steven submitting the feature
>> request. If only all issues could be resolved this q
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:35:25 +, alex goretoy wrote:
> for each his own.
Please don't top-post.
Please don't quote the ENTIRE body of text (PLUS doubling it by including
a completely useless HTML version) just to add a trivial comment. Trim
the text you are replying to.
> Any more word on
koranth...@gmail.com wrote:
I am creating an application and it creates ~1-2 threads every second
and kill it within 10 seconds. After reading this I am worried. Is
creating a thread a very costly operation?
Compared to a procedure call it's expensive, but a couple threads per
second is insig
Gabriel Genellina wrote:
greyw...@gmail.com escribió:
[...]
A simple server:
from socket import *
myHost = ''
Try with myHost = '127.0.0.1' instead - a firewall might be blocking
your server.
Just a nit: I'd say the reason to use '127.0.0.1' instead of the empty
string is that a firewall
On Jan 3, 11:25 am, John O'Hagan wrote:
> On Tue, 30th Dec 2008, Aaron Brady wrote:
> >Accepting that, I'll adopt the terms John proposed, 'change' vs.
> >'exchange', the former when the material configuration changes, the
> >latter when the communication axioms change.
>
> >b= [2, 3]
> >b= [3, 4]
ajaksu wrote:
On Jan 1, 4:12 pm, mma...@gmx.net wrote:
I would like to check if an index is in a slice or not without
iterating over the slice.
Something like:
isinslice(36, slice(None, 34, -1))
True
I think it'd be feasible for slices that can be mapped to ranges[1],
but slices are more f
MRAB writes:
> Filip Gruszczyński wrote:
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > File "", line 1, in
> > AttributeError: A instance has no attribute 'foo'
> >
> > Why is it so and how may still delete it?
> >
> 'a' is an instance of class A. You're trying to delete 'foo' from
> the instance
Filip Gruszczyński wrote:
I am trying to delete a method from a class. It's easy to delete other
attributes, but when I try:
class A:
... def foo():
... pass
...
a = A()
del a.foo
I get
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
AttributeError: A instance has
I am trying to delete a method from a class. It's easy to delete other
attributes, but when I try:
>>> class A:
... def foo():
... pass
...
>>> a = A()
>>> del a.foo
I get
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
AttributeError: A instance has no attribute 'foo'
On Jan 4, 7:10 am, imageguy wrote:
> On Jan 2, 7:33 pm, John Machin wrote:
>
> > For some very strange definition of "works". You say you have 'bgr'
> > and want to convert it to 'rbg'. The following code converts 'bgr' to
> > 'rgb', which is somewhat more plausible, but not what you said you
> >
On Jan 3, 9:27 pm, Mark Dickinson wrote:
> Decimal.from_float() implemented by Raymond Hettinger for Python 2.7
> and Python 3.1, within 72 hours of Steven submitting the feature
> request. If only all issues could be resolved this quickly. :-)
Rats. I left out the crucial line of that post, na
On Dec 31 2008, 11:02 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 06:38:32 -0800, Mark Dickinson wrote:
> > On Dec 28, 7:28 am, Steven D'Aprano > cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> >> Ah crap, I forgot that from_float() has been left out of the decimal
> >> API. That's very annoying.
>
> > Agreed.
Bryan Olson wrote:
> There are cases where a socket can select() as readable, but not be
> readable by the time of a following recv() or accept() call. All such
> cases with which I'm familiar call for a non-blocking socket.
I used to believe that if select() said data was ready for reading, a
hey, has anyone investigated compiling python2.5 using winegcc, under wine?
i'm presently working my way through it, just for kicks, and was
wondering if anyone would like to pitch in or stare at the mess under
a microscope.
it's not as crazed as it sounds. cross-compiling python2.5 for win32
wit
On Jan 4, 1:59 am, "Chris Rebert" wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 12:38 PM, asit wrote:
> > import httplib
>
> > class Server:
> > #server class
> > def __init__(self, host):
> > self.host = host
> > def fetch(self, path):
> > http = httplib.HTTPConnection(self.host)
> >
Hi,
I'm trying to capture the text word under the user cursor,
so I was searching the win32 lib for functions I can use.
i used this to fined the controller under the cursor
win32gui.WindowFromPoint(win32gui.GetCursorPos())
to get the controller, but then when I try to read the text with this
GetW
vk schrieb:
Have there been ports of the Python standard library to other
languages?
I would imagine using pickle, urllib, and sys in C (with pythonic
naming conventions) would be easier than using other libraries to do
the same thing.
AFAIK not. You could try elmer (found on SF) to expose the
Have there been ports of the Python standard library to other
languages?
I would imagine using pickle, urllib, and sys in C (with pythonic
naming conventions) would be easier than using other libraries to do
the same thing.
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 12:38 PM, asit wrote:
> import httplib
>
> class Server:
>#server class
>def __init__(self, host):
>self.host = host
>def fetch(self, path):
>http = httplib.HTTPConnection(self.host)
>http.putrequest("GET", path)
According to the docs, if
Thank you for so amazing debugging tutorial :).
I owe you a beer.
I found source of problem: then unhandled in python code
exception occurs frame_dealloc() (Objects/frameobject.c:422)
not called. Even if I call PyErr_Print().
But! If I call PyErr_Clear() then all okay!
Docs says that both this f
> Any more word on userio?
None yet, I'm afraid. Should've started a different thread for it -
but it's stuck here (in obscurity) forever xd.
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Bryan Olson wrote:
>
>Where does this come up? Suppose that to take advantage of multi-core
>processors, our server runs as four processes, each with a single thread
>that responds to events via select(). Clients all connect to the same
>server port, so the socket listening on that port is sh
import httplib
class Server:
#server class
def __init__(self, host):
self.host = host
def fetch(self, path):
http = httplib.HTTPConnection(self.host)
http.putrequest("GET", path)
r = http.getresponse()
print str(r.status) + " : " + r.reason
s
for each his own.
Any more word on userio?
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Russ P. wrote:
> On Jan 2, 10:50 pm, Ben Finney
>
> >
> wrote:
> > s0s...@gmail.com writes:
> > > On Jan 2, 7:20 pm, Ben Finney
> > >
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > They don't need to be creative; they merely need to confo
On Jan 2, 7:33 pm, John Machin wrote:
> For some very strange definition of "works". You say you have 'bgr'
> and want to convert it to 'rbg'. The following code converts 'bgr' to
> 'rgb', which is somewhat more plausible, but not what you said you
> wanted.
Well that's embarrassing ... you are
On 3 ene, 19:51, "Diez B. Roggisch" wrote:
> Kless schrieb:
>
>
>
> > On 3 ene, 19:40, Simon Forman wrote:
> >> On Jan 3, 11:20 am, Kless wrote:
>
> >>> Afghanistan
> >>> AF
> >>> Out[19]: u'AF'
> >>> AFG
> >>> Out[19]: u'AFG'
> >>> 004
> >>> Out[19]: u'004'
> >> What?
>
> > That's the output go
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 11:46:10 -0800, Kless wrote:
> On 3 ene, 19:40, Simon Forman wrote:
>> On Jan 3, 11:20 am, Kless wrote:
>>
>> > Afghanistan
>> > AF
>> > Out[19]: u'AF'
>> > AFG
>> > Out[19]: u'AFG'
>> > 004
>> > Out[19]: u'004'
>>
>> What?
>
> That's the output got from ipython. As you can
Kless schrieb:
On 3 ene, 19:40, Simon Forman wrote:
On Jan 3, 11:20 am, Kless wrote:
Afghanistan
AF
Out[19]: u'AF'
AFG
Out[19]: u'AFG'
004
Out[19]: u'004'
What?
That's the output got from ipython. As you can see, it prints
'Afghanistan' but it can not returns it. In change, the another
st
Kless schrieb:
On 3 ene, 19:12, "Diez B. Roggisch" wrote:
Kless schrieb:
How is possible that I can print a variable, but when I use *return
var* it returns an empty string
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/97588/
I don't see anything that indicates that the returned object is the
empty string. Si
On 3 ene, 19:40, Simon Forman wrote:
> On Jan 3, 11:20 am, Kless wrote:
>
> > Afghanistan
> > AF
> > Out[19]: u'AF'
> > AFG
> > Out[19]: u'AFG'
> > 004
> > Out[19]: u'004'
>
> What?
That's the output got from ipython. As you can see, it prints
'Afghanistan' but it can not returns it. In change,
On Jan 3, 11:20 am, Kless wrote:
> On 3 ene, 19:12, "Diez B. Roggisch" wrote:
>
> > Kless schrieb:
>
> > > How is possible that I can print a variable, but when I use *return
> > > var* it returns an empty string
>
> > >http://paste.pocoo.org/show/97588/
>
> > I don't see anything that indicates
On 3 ene, 19:12, "Diez B. Roggisch" wrote:
> Kless schrieb:
>
> > How is possible that I can print a variable, but when I use *return
> > var* it returns an empty string
>
> >http://paste.pocoo.org/show/97588/
>
> I don't see anything that indicates that the returned object is the
> empty string.
Kless schrieb:
How is possible that I can print a variable, but when I use *return
var* it returns an empty string
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/97588/
I don't see anything that indicates that the returned object is the
empty string. Simply because there is no code testing for that. And of
cou
On Jan 3, 8:39 am, koranth...@gmail.com wrote:
> I was going through Python posts and this post caught my
> attentionhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/...
>
>
> You have missed an important point. A well designed application does
> neither create so many threa
On Jan 2, 10:50 pm, Ben Finney
wrote:
> s0s...@gmail.com writes:
> > On Jan 2, 7:20 pm, Ben Finney
> > wrote:
> > > They don't need to be creative; they merely need to conform with
> > > the naming scheme as laid out in the PEP.
>
> > If it's something to be included in the standard library, I ag
> Why this happenning and who makes Py_INCREF(self)?
There are multiple possible explanations, but I think you
have ruled out most of them:
1. on_recv might be returning self. So py_result would be
the same as self, and hence be an additional reference.
However, you said that on_recv raised
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:39:52 -0800 (PST), koranth...@gmail.com wrote:
I was going through Python posts and this post caught my attention
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/f99326a4e5d394e/14cd708956bd1c1a#14cd708956bd1c1a
You have missed an important point. A we
Hello everybody!
I'm in trouble. This code shows that ob_refcnt increased by python
if "on_recv" method throws exception. This occurs only if base C-class
subclassed
in python code.
==
my_old_refcnt = Py_REFCNT(self);
py_result = PyObject_CallMethod(self, "on_recv", "(y#)", recvbuf, result
On 2009-01-03, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:39:15 -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
>
>> What the Python community often overlooks, when this discussion again
>> rears its ugly head (as it seems to every other hour or so), is that its
>> assignment model is BIZARRE, as in it's
Laszlo Nagy wrote:
[...]
I have read the socket programming howto (
http://docs.python.org/howto/sockets.html#sockets ) but it does not
explain how a blocking socket + select is different from a non blocking
socket + select. Is there any difference?
There is, but it may not effect you. There ar
On Tue, 30th Dec 2008, Aaron Brady wrote:
>Accepting that, I'll adopt the terms John proposed, 'change' vs.
>'exchange', the former when the material configuration changes, the
>latter when the communication axioms change.
>
>b= [2, 3]
>b= [3, 4]
>
>'b' has exchanged. (Somewhat ungrammatical.)
>
I was going through Python posts and this post caught my attention
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/f99326a4e5d394e/14cd708956bd1c1a#14cd708956bd1c1a
You have missed an important point. A well designed application does
neither create so many threads nor proce
sprad a écrit :
I've done a good bit of Perl, but I'm new to Python.
I find myself doing a lot of typecasting (or whatever this thing I'm
about to show you is called),
Actually, it's just plain object instanciation.
and I'm wondering if it's normal, or if
I'm missing an important idiom.
For
Derek Martin a écrit :
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 09:05:51PM +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Python seems rather weird, and I think from the frequency
with which these discussions occur on this list, clearly it *IS*
difficult for a neophyte Python programmer to understand the
assignment model.
To
James Mills wrote:
> The "greenlet" from http://codespeak.net/py/dist/greenlet.html
> is a rather interesting way of handling flow of control.
Ahh, yes. It's actually a rather old idea, but too rarely used.
> What can "greenlet"'s be used for ? What use-cases have you guys used
> them for (if
mk wrote:
> After reading http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0371/ I was under
> impression that performance of multiprocessing package is similar to
> that of thread / threading. However, to familiarize myself with both
> packages I wrote my own test of spawning and returning 100,000 empty
correction: the code posted in previous message should have been:
def __getitem__(self, expr):
try:
return eval(self.codes[expr], self.globals, self.locals)
except:
# We want to catch **all** evaluation errors!
# KeyError, NameError, Attribu
John Boloshevich wrote:
Hello,
does anybody know about an ACL implementation for python, which is not
tied to the filesystem? I would like to use ACL on different objects not
on files, so the POSIX file access solution is not the one I am looking for.
You mean something like the restricted e
On Jan 3, 7:16 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I was about to make a comment about this being a security hole,
Strange that you say this, as you are also implying that *all* the
widely-used templating systems for python are security holes... Well,
you would be right to say that of course ;-) Infact
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:39:15 -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 02:21:29PM +, John O'Hagan wrote:
> What the Python community often overlooks, when this discussion again
> rears its ugly head (as it seems to every other hour or so), is that its
> assignment model is BIZARRE,
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 09:00:01 -0800, r wrote:
> On Jan 2, 6:45 am, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:38:02 -0800, r wrote:
>> > He was not cross posting.
>>
>> You don't actually know what cross-posting is, do you?
>>
>> You've just earned a plonking for the next
Hello,
does anybody know about an ACL implementation for python, which is not tied
to the filesystem? I would like to use ACL on different objects not on
files, so the POSIX file access solution is not the one I am looking for.
I would like to be able to define ACOs, AROs, but it would be even ni
Týká se to Pythonu okrajově, přesto to dávám sem. Myslím, že by se mohlo
hodit i ostatním, kdo chtějí zkoušet pod Windows nové věci z development
verze:
Jak opatchovat (pythonýrský) soubor pod Windows? Co jsem udělal:
1/ stáhl jsem http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/patch.htm
2/ nainstal
bearophile wrote:
>Fuzzyman:
>
>> for i in l:
>> u = None
>> if len(i) == 2:
>> k, v = i
>> else:
>> k, u, v = i
>
>That's the best solution I have seen in this thread so far (but I
>suggest to improve indents and use better variable names). In
>programming it's generally better to follow t
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